Question: Please may I clarify if the words karmic “bondage” and karmic “Relationship” are synonymous? How to turn a karmic bondage into pure friendship using Gyan, Yoga. If this attraction happens between a Brahma Kumar/Kumari teacher and his/her student, how can they turn this attraction into a pure friendship? Can just one party make effort i.e. Gyan, Yoga (Maryadas) or should both make the effort? If only one party is making the effort will this attraction wear off over a period of time?

Karmic bondage and Karmic relationships are not synonymous. I had friendships and even relationships which have helped me to look into spirituality closer. Even though, there may have been a “mixture” of both. Those were “inspiring karmic accounts” to me.

A “bondage” is more like a “weight to carry with you. “To be constrained. I had some accounts like that for a period of time, but definitely do not fit into the first category.
Your question is interesting. The short answer according to my experience is that it depends on the individuals involved.

If those individuals are “Golden aged souls” they will realize the sense of time and will definitely behave among each other with mutual respect. However, there has to be that communication among them to express their feelings openly. If this is a mutual feeling, they will need to be honest with themselves and see where they want to take this. Gyan teaches that an “attraction” is just a karmic account which needs to be settled at this time. How they settle that account is up to their roles. Obviously if they are gyani souls, they will acknowledge that attraction and realize that it is not the “real thing” and could work this either alone or both together. Honesty is the best policy, even if it hurts.

In my experience, the way to “dissolve” this attraction is by working on your yoga and at the same time not giving life to any thoughts of “hope” as far as any “romantic escapades” coming to the mind. The mind will create those thoughts and we will think things to reinforce that feeling of attraction, thus making the sanskar stronger. We will suffer because our thoughts will not fit reality.

Many times attractions come when someone fits our idea of beauty, generosity, sweetness, spirituality, etc. In my experience, when you get to know that person closely, those ideas will be dissolved “naturally,” for no one can fit an “ideal” especially at this time. This is why usually “marriage” cures the illusion of attraction.. 🙂

Therefore, while this process of “un-attraction” is happening it is important to follow the code of conduct to “speed things up.” It is just an illusion.

Being a “BK teacher” make things more “black and white” for that person may need to consider if that is a good example for others to see.

If that feeling of attraction is unilateral only, there is no question about it. It is a karmic bondage. That person needs to accept that, heal the heart and move on with a big smile….Sometimes, this takes time to realize, but if this soul is “Golden aged” he will hang on with the code of conduct no matter what… 🙂

Best wishes!

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  1. D

    Thank you for taking the time to reply.
    When one soul is working on un-attraction (thanks to Baba) & is making progress suddenly the soul feels literally feels the pull of the Intellect. What I do is I immediately stabilise myself as a point of light n Baba filling me with power and I channel BABA’s Energy to that soul. Do let me know if you have any other yukti.
    The pull of the intellect I have experienced even in a situation where there is no attraction on my part. For eg one soul flashed across my mind and few minutes later that soul rang me. How uncanny!
    I know it may help not being in the vicinity of that soul but one has to face and not just avoiding.
    I know BKs opt for staying away for sometime.
    Look forward to your reply.

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    • avyakt7

      Thanks for your input. For me is just to observe the self and observe how “attraction” comes in. A thought comes, then I make that thought alive through day dreaming, desires, expectations, etc. Before it gets there, I “cut” the thought. In my experience, this is what Baba calls “spinning the discuss” for basically, you are cutting a thought by moving your attention into something else, like the cycle of time.

      To watch our thoughts is the basis of the “un-attraction” phase in my experience.

      Best wishes!

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      • D

        Ji, thank you for your reply which is much appreciated. I am so glad that I can write to you in anonymity. One thing the BKs suffer from is no one to talk to or rather talk to someone they can trust, who will not judge them and one who understands them. I am writting on behalf of some Bks. BKs get attacked by Maya but most don’t have a friend to talk to. Many sit with Baba & try & work it out & over a period of time they do & time is a great healing factor. Sadly BKs cannot even turn to their lokiks for a listening ear because the reply from lokiks will be …” You are a Raja Yoga student …….how come this is happening…….Raja Yoga is not effective…how many years you are with Brahma Kumaris”!!!!! I empathise with BKs. Hence many BKs suffer from depress etcion. BK sisters should not hang out with BK brothers etc etc….BKs get loney even ones who have a loving & co-operative family (wife & children). Lokik & alokik families expect us to be super human!!!!!!!! I was told by one BK that a BK he/she knew had Maya (attraction) and that BK soul went to a therapist/counsellor & worked it out.

        Bks know that attraction is a karmic bondage, it is illusion but Bks have told me as much as they are not interested to let this attraction go any further …the vibration that comes from the soul who is attracted to them is so powerful. Here we BKs are using Baba’s Energy as a shield but Maya’s energy is equally powerful!!!!!!!!!!!
        HOW CAN AN AGYANI SOULS’S ENERGY BE SO POWERFUL?

        I would like to share my experience & I would like your input. Thanks in advance.
        I have a nice bunch of students, sisters & a husband & wife team. I am definitely not an elephant rider but these souls are like me, praise me & feel my energy is good. I actually cancelled 1 lesson with them so as to just be in silence have time for myself…I felt they were tapping my energy (not sure if this is the right word to use). I was a little under the weather so perhaps that contributed to the tiredness. I don’t know hence i am writting to you.

        Attraction being a karmic bondage is one thing…..a different kind of pull of the intellect. But even in a non-attraction situation one can feel drained.

        BK Diane Tillman’s talk (on CD quite a few years back – Conquering Lust the Greatest Eenemy is a good one to listen to for anyone getting attacked by ‘attraction’..

        BK Diane Tillman shared that why is lust the greatest enemy because the other vices are equally our enemy. She said lust ……when someone gets attracted & from there fall in love…start a relatiionship……THE BK SOUL WILL LEAVE BABA. Other vices ego, anger will not pull them away from Baba i.e. they will not leave Baba but Maya in the form of lust will make them leave Baba because they are under the illusion that they have found the ‘perfect’ partner, going to have a perfect marriage/life & perfect children.

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  2. avyakt7

    Dear Soul,

    I would urge you not to use a label for you such as ” I am definitely not an elephant rider.” Why do we need to do that?
    You are who you are (a soul) and your role is unique. Energies could be very powerful from souls without knowledge as well as knowledge-full souls. Also, karmic accounts are powerful. What you feel maybe just what you feel and no one else does it but you.

    The bottom line is: What do you do? Do you go into it physically, emotionally, at the thought level? If you do… it will create a sanskara which will become stronger as you reinforce it with your thoughts. That is all.

    This is why the experience of yoga/ stillness and concentration becomes very helpful for you will be able to perceive you and observe you when those attractions occur. JUST observe. Don’t do anything, don’t think anything. See what happens as when watching a movie. That is all. Once the experience is over, do not think over that. Just think on other things. DO not let your mind to give into fantasy.
    People will cross your path to show you what you have inside.
    Consider this.

    Best wishes.

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    • D

      Thank you for your kind words.
      I apologise for some typos in my earlier message.
      I meant to say my students ‘like me’ & not ‘are like me’. (etcion – typo)
      Your last para – I totally, totally agree but this ‘mind’ of mine….over active…..my biggest challenge. Too much thinking. Is it a karmic account with the mind?

      I remember reading some where not sure if Murli or Dadi’s class that I you keep on repeating an event/people/situation in your mind….it will be a karmic account with the mind. I have to burn this sanskar.

      Will be meeting my ‘bunch’ tomorrow :)))))))))) wish me luck.

      Thanks again

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  3. R

    Dear D:
    I had a very unfortunate experience with the Bk teacher. I was Baba’s baby, and that soul had over 20years with BK’s(it is a wonder!!!).
    I can tell you that un-attraction has happened very slowly. The Drama will put you in absolutely ridiculous situations so that your “love” will not survive. Of course, spiritual love is eternal, but, but…we are human being, not the angels yet… As Baba said in one of the murli, if you don’t surround yourself out of love completely, then you will do it anyway, but out of compulsion and will experience punishment. yes, indeed.. very severe punishment… nothing can be hidden.
    And so, run away dear D… physically and mentally(!!!). Run, run with Baba so fast that the bondages would break. Be aware of the energy while meditating, make sure you connect to Baba, not to that soul. When souls link together- this is a real disaster for both human beings. find a senior(s) whom you trust, have a very powerful yoga with them!!! BURN, BURN it!!! Good luck!!!

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