Reader’s input: “Why this drama was created? And why 5000 yr repetition?”
From this article.
“Drama- is eternal- timeless, ageless,pre-ordained, precise, repetitive and very very meaningful.Souls are also ageless,timeless, eternal, indestructible.So is God or Supreme Soul.
Creation – Destruction and once again creation is an active process. Naturally it is very interesting. It adds spice to the life of we souls on the planet earth.When we are in soul-conscious Deity like status, we are unaware that we are souls.We are very happy, healthy, peaceful, joyful and prosperous.That is why we are called Royal idiots in Sat-yug and Treta-yug.We do not even remember our Supreme Father.We don’t have the trikaal-darshi knowledge.Body-consciousness gets the pure souls to pursue the path of Preyas- i.e the path of pursuing materialistic gains and sensual pleasure.Brahmin stage brings knowledge of the past , present and future; the knowledge about our Supreme Father, about the futility of path of preyas and short-term gains, about the pranik energy depletion by this path,and about the ultimate gains of becoming soul-conscious.The whole time-cycle is full of varied experiences.
If we remain in soul-conscious state eternally,we would not realize what is meant by expectation, hope, pain,suffering and thus we would never realize what a happy state we are in when we are soul-conscious. In fact,THIS SHALL BE MONOTONOUS AND BORING.
The pleasure always lies having an active part in the games or the drama as actors.There are millions in audience or spectators.We would prefer to be Sachin Tendulkar hitting century after centuries rather than a non-descript person cheering amidst the crowd.
Cycle of 5000 years- In USA, in Central Park an unique tree is existing whose life-span is always 5000. At present, the tree is nearing the end of it’s life-span.So this may be the proof for the kalpa being of 5000 years only.
Only 5000 years, kali-yug only 1250 years,instead of 40 million years, should be a news for great joy.Already, millions of suffering souls are feeling “Enough is enough.No more of Kali-yug.”Secondly, our life-span is just 100 years.So why bother what happens before it or after it. Making the best out of the present under Shiv Baba’s Shrimat.”
Avyakt7 responds:
1. “When we are in soul-conscious Deity like status, we are unaware that we are souls… That is why we are called Royal idiots.”
According to Baba’s gyan, being soul conscious means to be aware that we are souls. In the golden age we are aware that we are souls. The term “Royal idiots” as you say does not translate into the English word “idiot” which means: A stupid person, a mentally handicapped person. Certainly, it has to be a translation error, for Deities are far from that. The best word that I could find is “innocent.”
2. “We do not even remember our Supreme Father.”
There is no need for that. In the Drama everything works according to need of the time. A deity is no less because they do not “remember our Supreme Father.” “They” are US, in another time.
3. “Cycle of 5000 years- In USA, in Central Park an unique tree is existing whose life-span is always 5000. At present, the tree is nearing the end of it’s life-span.So this may be the proof for the kalpa being of 5000 years only.”
Here is a link of the oldest recorded trees. Let us remember that “The Americas” (USA included) was a “picnic place” which emerged from the Ocean later on. Thus, it is not possible for any tree to be close to 5000 years unless it is found in Bharat, because as we know, everything else was under water.4. “If we remain in soul-conscious state eternally,we would not realize what is meant by expectation, hope, pain,suffering and thus we would never realize what a happy state we are in when we are soul-conscious. In fact,THIS SHALL BE MONOTONOUS AND BORING.”
🙂 Being in bliss is not “monotonous neither boring.” Those are expressions (monotonous and boring) which only exist in body consciousness. The Drama is about experiencing duality and expressing duality as well. For Brahmin souls, that duality is between soul consciousness and body consciousness. One more item: There is no “happiness” in soul consciousness. Happiness is only known when we experience suffering. In the Golden age we do not experience suffering, therefore; we cannot experience happiness. The right word is Spiritual Bliss, which is a “natural” expression of a soul.
Best wishes.
Exploring the Depth of Living 
Thank you for your question. I do not recall a Murli when Baba discloses that information; however, i could assume it was sometime between the Golden and Silver ages, for there is an account of Veemans flying there. (They were not available in the Copper age.)
Golden age is exclusively in Bharat. Keep in mind that Bharat back then is not India. It is the Indian subcontinent, which at this time; has other countries as well.
Souls who go to the Golden age are the ones whose Sankaras are needed there. Baba has mentioned in the Murli that some scientists will go to the Golden age, although their status will not be “high.” One more thing. We go to the Golden age not because of what we do, but because of what we “are” now. Our ability to transform the self and in the case of scientists, their ability to transform matter.
Best wishes.
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Your reply: Here is a link of the oldest recorded trees. Let us remember that “The Americas” (USA included) was a “picnic place” which emerged from the Ocean later on. Thus, it is not possible for any tree to be close to 5000 years unless it is found in Bharat, because as we know, everything else was under water.
Q: Did ‘picnic place’ emerge in the Copper Age? Is Golden Age exclusively Bharat?
New students ask…only Bharat is the Golden Age? Only souls who study Raja Yoga can go to Golden Age? There are such noble souls who do such great service to mankind…tirelessly working in the front line helping the poor and the needy
whereas BKs sit comfortably in their comfort zone & say they are doing mansa seva!
Your input, please.
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