Reader’s remarks: About Dharamraj

Om shanti.

Baba says that as Dharmraj He would only show us our mistakes/ sins but would not punish us Himself. He was/ is/ will be just a Detached Observer.

The ‘punishment’ that we undergo in Dharmraj puri would be ‘self-inflicted’. The soul watches his/ her sins and experiences pain and suffering based on what it is viewing. The soul realises its mistakes/ sins and ‘experiences’ equal amount of pain and sorrow that he/ she had inflicted on others.

That is how the soul gets purified and returns home as a pure soul sans all the weaknesses and vices he/ she had in the last birth.

Mostly, it seems like (sounds logical too) we settle all our karmic accounts of the previous births before leaving the present body. Yes, we do not know/ remember what all foolish, useless, and sinful things we had performed in our previous births; but we know the ‘root-cause’ of all those actions which is body consciousness.

So, the more we let go of our b.c. or, the more we improve our soul consciousness, the more our sanskars get reformed and sins will be burnt.

So, when we reach the subtle region for the ‘final purification’,we will be left with the (fresh) sins of this last birth that we could not settle before leaving the body. 🙂

The near death experiences that we have read explain how loving is/ was the DIVINE LIGHT (Baba/ Dharamraj)and how a few angel like people (8 jewels who will sit in the tribunal) were supportive and accommodating. Baba and the 8 jewels will not ‘condemn’ us for our ‘misdeeds’, rather, by giving love and support, they enable us to withstand our pain and suffering.

What else can we expect from the Ocean of Love and the Ocean of Knowledge who understands the Drama and our roles? The 8 jewels who sit in the tribunal are equal to the Father at that time hence they too shower love and power on the souls who are going through the process of ‘settlement’.

It is the Spiritual law that any soul has to lose its power of purity with time and has to regain it fully by the end of the drama either through realisation, or suffering, or both. So, the sweet Father and the 8 angels just assist us to understand our mistakes and to get rid of the dirt of vices.

Let us use the power of knowledge and yoga and remove our vices as much as we can so that we would not need to suffer much on our way back HOME.

Another point related to this aspect is – Baba says that the ‘punishment time’ would not be long, it might take just a few seconds.

One may wonder how could we view our long list of sins in such a short time. True, we are used /habituated to think of time as something that runs in a linear fashion. (sorry for loss of words to express my thoughts in a better way.) But many souls who had the near death experiences were able to see ‘All the important Events of their life’ in a few seconds!

So, it is possible. While describing the ‘Dharmaraj puri’ (the name of the subtle region on our way back Home), Baba says that even though it takes very little time to view our sins and to go through the suffering, one experiences that period to be like a very long time.

Our sweet brother Einstein’s theory holds good even in the subtle region! 🙂

Let us become wise and alert and become a sample for many many souls
by transforming ourselves and inspiring them also to make sincere effort.

Let there not be the FEAR of punishment but the willingness and enthusiasm to regain our lost purity and strength.

yad pyar,


AVYAKT7 responds:

Below you will see different Murli’s excerpts.
Note the contrast between Sakar Murli and Avyakt Murlis.
Also note that the information is given which may seem ” a roundabout” and not to the point. Note that even the “jail of the womb” was considered Dharamraj- Note that Sakar Murlis mention that every sin from every birth will be accounted for. 🙂

Also, the Father is mentioned as being Dharamraj, but then Dharamraj is mentioned as his “right hand.”
This is why, we cannot take versions literally. We have to churn them.
However, my preferred version is:

Avyakt BapDada 19th April 1969
“Only eight will cross the land of Dharamraj without experiencing punishment. This is the method for not experiencing punishment. The more you stay in the awareness of the point, the greater will be the change visible in your sanskars.”

For me it is sweet, short and with the recent experience of Brahma Baba of becoming avyakt.. and He is giving us how to “avoid Dharamraj.”

Best wishes,

Murli excerpts:

Murli of 19-08-2001. Pg. 3 Last Paragraph: Question: What is the land of Dharamraj? How and when can you experience that? Answer: The land of Dharamraj is not a separate place. The experience of punishment is called the land of Dharamraj. All your sins appear in front of you at the end and the demons of death are not anything living. It is your own sins that appear in front of you to make you afraid. Those moments are the moments of repentance and disinterest. Even small sins appear to be like evil spirits and these are referred to as the demons of death coming to you. Ugly ones come, beautiful ones come, and even Brahma Baba appears in front of you in an official form. A tiny sin is visible in a very fearsome form. Some mirrors are such that a small person appears to be very fat and tall. In the same way, at the final moment, there will be cries of distress of repentance. There will be that pain and burning internally. It will feel as though someone is peeling your skin. There will be these feelings. There will be the experience of such punishment of sins and it will be very severe. This is referred to as the land of Dharamraj.

Avyakt BapDada 7th February 1980

If there is not controlling power the soul will have to appear in the court of dharamraj (the supreme judge) and will be fined! So be refined and avoid being fined. Do you wish to be welcomed with honour in the court of dharamraj? Or do you wish to experience repentance?

06-06-03-Sakar murli
Firstly, it is Ravan that gives you sorrow and secondly Dharamraj gives you punishment in the jail of a womb. He gives you a vision of all the sins you have committed. In the golden age, a womb is like a palace,

07-07-03 Sakar Murli
If a burden of sin remains, the tribunal will sit for you. You will then be given visions: This is what you did in such-and-such a birth. When someone sacrifices himself at Kashi, he is given a vision and then punished. Here too, you are given visions and then Dharamraj would say: Look, the Father was teaching you through this body of Brahma. He taught you so much, but in spite of that you committed these sins. You are not only given a vision of the sins of this birth, but the sins of birth after birth. It takes a lot of time. It is as though you are experiencing punishment for many births and you will then repent and cry a great deal. However, what can be done at that time? This is why I tell you in advance: If you defame My name, there will have to be a lot of punishment. Therefore, children, don’t become those who defame Me, your Satguru

You have to be tolerant in every situation and you also have to understand that the Father is the Father and also Dharamraj. If anything happens, simply report it to the Father. Then, that would reach Dharamraj anyway, and that person would be subject to punishment The Father says: I give happiness. It is Dharamraj who gives sorrow, that is, punishment. I don’t have a right to give punishment. You tell Me and then Dharamraj will give the punishment. By telling Baba about it you will become light because He (Dharamraj) is still the right hand.

Page 31- last line from the book “Brahmin Life a Diamond life’ by Bro Nirwar.
“There is a fear of Dharamraj. Sakar Baba used to say that the Father is here now giving the experience of all relationships. At the end the relationship will be that of Dharamraj. But for whom? Only those who break Baba’s law

The above from:

Avyakt BapDada 19th April 1969

Only eight will cross the land of Dharamraj without experiencing punishment. This is the method for not experiencing punishment. The more you stay in the awareness of the point, the greater will be the change visible in your sanskars.

Avyakt BapDada 25th November 1995

For the new ones, the murli is very deep, but in the Diamond Jubilee. BapDada wishes to free all of you from everything. If you do not do this he will have to take on the form of Dharamraj. At the moment, Baba is telling you with love. Why should you not become free whilst there is still the form of the Father? The older ones think that BapDada should do something so that everyone becomes all right. But Baba does not want this. Baba does not want to be taking the form of Dharamraj. He can punish everyone internally in one second, and that punishment would be very intense. But BapDada does not want this. The form of the Father is very loving. If Dharmaraj becomes his companion, he will not listen to anything. Do you understand?

Avyakt BapDada 19th March 1990

You want to go with Baba do you not? Or do you want to wait in between in the land of Dharamraj? Does everyone have the determined thought that we are together and we will all go together? At that time, Baba will not stop – he will not wait – he will fly in a second.

Avyakt BapDada 18th January 1988
If God is pleased, you will be free from Dharamraj the account keeper, and you will also be free from Maya.

The above from:

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