Comments on Sakar Murli – November 19, 2012

Essence: Sweet children, to cause sorrow for one another is the work of ghosts. You mustn’t cause anyone sorrow. These ghosts don’t exist in the kingdom of Rama.

Question: In which aspect should you children not become unconscious but remain in happiness?
Answer: When illness etc. comes, don’t become unconscious. If you are caught up in body consciousness, if you don’t consider yourself to be a soul, if your attention is on your body throughout the day, it is as though you are dead.
Baba says: Children, stay in yoga and your pain will reduce. Your sorrow is removed with the power of yoga; you
remain very happy. It is said: When you grind your own ingredients, your intoxication rises. Remove the suffering
of karma with yoga.

Song: You wasted the night in sleeping and the day in eating…

Essence for dharna:

1. Become nightingales of knowledge and sweetly chirp knowledge to everyone to remove them from the grave.
Reveal the Mother and Father.

2. Don’t allow any ghosts to enter you. Even the ghost of attachment destroys all truth, everything. So, protect
yourself from ghosts. Connect your intellect’s yoga to the one Father.

Blessing: May you be free from all attachments and do service as an instrument with the awareness of belonging to the one Father and none other.

The mind and intellect of the children who constantly maintain the awareness of belonging to the one Father and
none other easily remain stable and concentrated. They do service as instruments and they therefore do not have
any attachment to it. The sign of attachment is that your intellect will be drawn to where there is attachment and
your mind will run there. Therefore, hand over all your responsibilities to the Father and look after them as a
trustee and an instrument and you will become free from attachment.

Slogan: Obstacles make the soul strong. Therefore, do not be afraid of obstacles.


In this Murli we have 2 main themes. That Brahmin souls are brothers and sisters. The vision is of brotherhood and that is the “easy” method to live at home as a couple and remain “pure.”

The other theme is related with the “ghosts” of vices which cause sorrow. A vice is like a ghost, taking over a person’s will causing sorrow. However, in this particular instance; those lines could be taken literally for “ghosts” have the ability to cause sorrow and mischief as well. The Murli line: ”People in the world with occult powers….. When they have the vice of lust they cause sorrow to one another” confirms the statement that Baba is also referring to those forces beyond a person’s activity.

There is a good point to note when Baba mentions that the power of yoga is able to reduce the suffering that a disease brings. However, it is challenging to connect in yoga while the body is in pain. Obviously to be able to feel soul consciousness at that time will reduce the physical pain, for the awareness will no longer be in the physical realm. A challenge that could be done, but it is not easy.

Some points to churn:

* About the relationship of brotherhood:

“God is the father so a mother is needed. Since you call him Mother and Father then you should be brothers and sisters” “Why do you indulge in vice if you are brothers and sisters”
“Adam and Eve are very well known they are definitely children of God” “Adam and Eve, Brahma and Saraswatti exist here.”

It is interesting to note that by using the Christian analogy of “Adam and Eve,” those names are not known as “brother and sister,” but as the first couple. On the other hand, Brahma and Saraswatti are viewed as a couple as well in Hindu bhakti, but in Brahma Kumaris; they are viewed as a “father and daughter.”

“Maya is such that she instantly makes you fall. Only banyan trees never fall in a storm.”

Depending on the strength of the soul, “falling” will be experienced in different degrees and different times. As “tests” are increasingly stronger, the “filter” will be seen and experienced. Banyan trees are known as “strangler fig” for they grow their roots by taking up another tree as a host. Therefore, they have the support of that host tree in the beginning as well as the roots that are grown.

The Murli passage that “banyan trees have their roots upwards , unlike any other tree is actually a passage of the Bhagavad Gita: Krishna said: “”There is a banyan tree which has its roots upward and its branches down, and the Vedic hymns are its leaves. One who knows this tree is the knower of the Vedas.” (Bg 15.1) – The meaning of this is related with the branches of the tree being in the physical world while the roots, what is the substance, reality; is “up above.”

“Ghosts of vices. This is the kingdom of devilish ghosts. Ghosts don allow you to connect your intellect yoga.”

As explained above, this line could be taken literally as well as in an analogy using the vices.
“You should explain: There is one Creator and everyone calls Him the Father “
Devotional line. However, it is effectively used when the intellects of individuals is full of devotion.

“Grind your own ingredients and you will feel the intoxication, however the intellect yoga has to be connected to the Father”

I like that. In Brahmin life we should learn to “grind our own ingredients.” Forget about repeating or quoting what someone else said. Use your own experience and your own examples to explain gyan; that is a sign that you are grinding your own ingredients; however, unless our intellect is not connected in yoga, that “exhilaration” will be for a short time only.

“Attachment destroys all truth. It makes you into a monkey. It turns you away from the mother and father”

Our attachments to this world change our priorities in life; however, this does not mean that we shouldn’t have a thing, no relationships, no property, not a thing. To think like that is to profess the “path of isolation,” “hatha yoga.” A master can use things which destiny provides but at the same time of those things are taking away; a master will be able to live without them.

To say: “I only posses 3 pairs of pants and a sweater” as a symbol of not being attached or simple; is the same as saying “ I only posses 3 BMWs and a house with a pool and a Jacuzzi.” What matters in our consciousness. Ego in not having is the same as Ego in having, when in reality, we “use” things, we do not possess anything at all.

“Suffering of karma has to be removed with yoga”

That is the most convenient and helpful way.

“Make full effort to claim your full inheritance form the father. If you don’t claim it now, you will be missing every cycle”

This is one of the greatest paradoxes in Gyan.

“Simply imbibe this knowledge in a week and then go”

Baba was referring to those who had to go somewhere (America) Baba mentioned that they could go as long as they imbibed and had remembrance. The aim of listening the Murli everyday is to remember not to repeat. Two different things.


  1. avyakt7

    Yeah.. and it even says that she was incognito… 🙂
    However, Dada Lekhraj had his name changed into Brahma. Obviously that change made him “popular.” However, Radhe, was known as “Mama.” That will make her “incognito,” for that is a common way of respect and endearment such as saying “Baba.”

    However, the Murli mentions that Mama is known as “Saraswatti.” If her name was changed into that, she wouldn’t have been that incognito… 🙂


  2. pmmcur

    dear brother, do you have some churnings for us on the part that the soul of Mama played/plays? Baba tells us today the name of Rhade is not mentioned in the Gita. What always struck me is the relative “anonymity” of (the soul playing the part of) Mama. No memorial of her like we have of BrahmaBaba or Dadiji, f.e.. At the same time in the murli’s Baba says something like: Lakshmi is mentioned first (before Narayen) because of her greatness.


    • avyakt7

      Dear Sister;
      Mama has plenty of “memorials.” According to BK- Hindu representation; Dada Lekhraj is known as Brahma. Mama, is known as :”Saraswatti.” (the Goddess of knowledge, music and the arts) who is then known as Laxmi in the Golden age.

      Apparently in the Golden age females are named before males. My thought is that somehow females were the ones ruling or had a special role. That changed in the Silver age ( Rama and Sita) and from there it became a patriarchy in the Copper age and even today.

      That is why Brahma Kumaris is basically a “sisterhood,” where those sanskaras will appear again in the Golden age… 🙂

      As far as churning with the role of Mama, I haven’t thought about that yet… 🙂


      • pmmcur

        thank you for mentioning the change in sequence of names (Silver age)! With memorials I meant in this Diamond age, Mama is pretty incognito, at least for me who came late….


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