Comments on Sakar Murli – December 11, 2012

Essence: Sweet children, the Father has come from the faraway land to establish both a religion and a kingdom. When the deity religion exists, it is the kingdom of deities. There is no other religion or kingdom at that time.

Question: In the golden age, all are charitable souls; there are no sinful souls. What is the sign of that?
Answer: There, no one suffers for his or her actions in the form of illness. Illnesses etc. here prove that souls are experiencing punishment for their sins in the form of suffering for their karma. That is called the karmic accounts of the past.

Question: Which of the Father’s signals can only far-sighted children understand?
Answer: The Father signals: Children, while sitting here, race with your intellect’s yoga and remember the Father. If you remember Him with love, you will become a garland around the Father’s neck. Your tears of love become beads of the rosary.

Song: At last the day for which we had been waiting has come.

Essence for dharna:

1. Become far-sighted. Have your sins absolved with the pilgrimage of remembrance. Never perform sinful actions while on the pilgrimage.

2. Become a mahavir and conquer Maya. Don’t be afraid of defamation. Become Kalangidhar.

Blessing: May you be filled with unbroken peace and happiness by considering storms to be a gift for the flying stage.

In order to experience a life that is filled with unbroken peace and happiness, become a self-sovereign, a master of the self.
For a master of the self, a storm becomes a gift for the flying stage to make that one experienced. Such a soul does not experience happiness on the basis of facilities, salvation or praise, but he experiences unbroken happiness and peace on the basis of Godly attainment. Circumstances of any type of peacelessness cannot break the constant and unbroken peace of such a soul.

Slogan: In order to experience being full constantly full, give blessings and receive blessings.


This Murli brings very good points about the differences or contrasts between the Deity “religion” and any other “religion.”

Baba then explains that this kingdom is our “inheritance” from the “Father.” This inheritance is given by God through Brahma Baba the “father” of Brahmin souls.
Another way of looking at the above description, is by observing that God “awaken” us through knowledge. The understanding of this knowledge in its practical level is numberwise among those who can understand it. This understanding is related with the role of a particular soul. Therefore, what is known as the “Golden age” is the scenario for the first actors in this Drama /cycle of time. Viewed under devotional feelings, we can say that “God is giving an inheritance to us his children,” but then this statement denies the fact that every soul is a “child” of God and 7 billion souls will not get an “inheritance” from the Father. 😦

However, the words, “children of God” is again another devotional way of forging a relationship with God at a “bodily level of understanding,” for the Father/child relationship only exists in the consciousness of the body because as souls there is no such a thing as a “father.”

Below some points for further churning:

“The Father has come-from the faraway land to establish both a religion and a kingdom. When the deity religion exists, it is the kingdom of deities. There is no other religion or kingdom at that time.”
The role of God is to awaken that knowledge which is already in the roles of us, souls. Whatever happens after that is simply what it is in the roles of souls to play. The word “dharma” is loosely translated as “religion.” However, “Dharma” means “law or natural law,” in other words whatever is considered to be “proper” to maintain the order of things. On the other hand, the word “religion” has the connotation of a “belief system.” Note that many times these concepts are interchanged in the Murli when there is a vast difference.
Deitism is not a “religion” as we know it in the “iron age;” but it is a type of “Dharma.” There is a following of the natural laws to keep in a natural way the wellbeing of the individuals.
In Deitism, the “political or ruling way and Dharma are all together.” There is no difference. Because in the Golden age unity is the “dharma,” there is what we know as a “monarchy,” and a ”kingdom.” for this better represents being “numberwise.” Democracy plays with the concept of “equality,” which is an illusion. Also, in the Iron age there is a division between “dharma” and political ruling. Moreover, a “dharma” has been changed into a dogmatic religious/devotional view. Ina few words, Dharma is the most satopradhan stage of what is known today as “organized religion.”
In the Golden age there was one rule and one dharma.

“Religion plus sovereignty is religio-politicaL The deity religion is also being established. None of those of other religions establish a kingdom; they simply establish a religion. Baba says: I am establishing the original eternal deity religion and kingdom.”
There is no establishment of a kingdom for any other religion because according to the Drama, the other religions come in the age of duality. Therefore, religion is separate than political ruling. Moreover, “dharma” begins to degrade into a religion. Brahmin souls as ancestor souls, will start the “dharma” which will degrade in time and be picked up by different political or religious views later on.

“The souls of those who come to establish a new religion come from far away. They are founders of a religion whereas that One is called the One who establishes a religion and a sovereignty.”
Every religion think of themselves as being established by God through an avatar or a “special soul.” This view is the right view for them according to time. What is different about the Brahmin clan is that we can experience spiritual attainments, “Godly attainments” now by changing our consciousness.
There is no religion or dharma that I am aware of who teaches to be soul conscious, which means to get in touch with our “true” being.

“Those of other religions don’t understand that Christ came to establish Christianity. They don’t understand this at that time. It is only when it has grown that they call it the Christian religion.”
A religion is made by the followers. Christ didn’t make a religion of his teachings but his followers did that. Those avatars such as Christ, Buddha, etc. taught something to humanity. When those teachings are not put in a practical way, then a “holy religion” emerges to “keep the teachings intact.” Missing completely the point, for devotion appears.

“Your signs continue from the beginning until now. There are images of Lakshmi and Narayan. You know that it also used to be their kingdom in the golden age. There, you won’t have the knowledge of whose kingdom it was in the past or whose kingdom it will be in the future. At that time, you only know the present. You now know the past, present and future.”
Good paragraph there with plenty of gyan. The proof of our existence in the past as “deities” is portrayed in “memorials” which show that there was another culture before with great splendor. BapDada call us, Brahmin souls; that we are more elevated than deities because we know this knowledge of the whole cycle. We have experienced duality. Deities do not know about those things. As a matter of fact, a sign of soul consciousness is to be “present” in the present time. Body consciousness on the other hand, relies on memories of the past and expectations of the future.

“You children know that the unlimited Father truly is teaching us. You know that this is the end of the last of the many births of the Krishna soul. I have come and entered him. He definitely has to be named Brahma. Brahma becomes Vishnu and Vishnu becomes Brahma.”
The above is the main aspect to know about the role of God in relationship with Brahma Baba, and the relation of Brahma Baba with the rest of the Brahmin souls. It is also the explanation of the cycle of time in a few words.

“This is incorporeal Father Shiva and this is the inheritance you receive from Him. How did you receive your inheritance from the incorporeal One? Through Prajapita Brahma, you are changing from Brahmins into deities. Then, after 84 births, those same deities will become Brahmins.”
This paragraph basically explains the same thing as the paragraph before, however, using different words.

“We are Brahmins, children of Brahma, and we are also the children of Rudra (Shiva). “
Here is an example of a problem in the “relationships.” Are the rest of the souls of the world children of God? If yes, are they also children of Brahma? (Prajapita Brahma) If yes, then why they do not receive an inheritance? 🙂 If it is because they do not follow Shrimat, then we know through the knowledge of the “role being recorded,” that those other souls cannot know this knowledge as a Brahmin soul does.
Therefore, we could believe that “we are the fortunate ones” and the rest are not.
This is one of the main issues of explaining deep knowledge under the “easy premises” of devotional language.

“The Father says: I come at the confluence age. This Brahmin religion in between is something different. In the iron age there is the shudra religion. In the golden age there is the deity religion. This is the Brahmin religion. You belong to the Brahmin religion. “
This paragraph explains better what was observed above. There is no such a thing as a “SHUDRA RELIGION.” There is a “Shudra dharma.” Same thing could be said about a “deity religion.” It is the Deity dharma.

“If, according to his karmic accounts, a soul has to take birth in London, he would go and enter a womb there in a second.”
Note the fine relationship between a karmic account and a role. Our roles are expressed through karma which varies according to time. That expression is our dharma at that time. Godly knowledge instills a “new dharma” to obtain a “new dharna,” which will change our karma.

“Souls cannot go back to their home now because they no longer have that strength; they have become weak. They are unable to fly. There is a huge burden of sin on the soul. “
Not even in the Golden age a soul can go back to “their home.” That is part of the role in the Drama.

“It is the soul that carries his karmic accounts with himself. This is why it is said that that is the suffering of his past. The soul carries his sanskars with himself. Some are crippled from birth and so it is said that they must have performed such actions in their past. There are the actions of many births that have to be settled through suffering. In the golden age there are only charitable souls. These things do not exist there. Here, all are sinful souls.”

Any sort of suffering is the proof of unsettled karmic accounts. That suffering is the means to settle a karmic account. Note that our capacity to perform a role is proportional to our capacity to withstand its consequences as well, for that experience of sorrow and happiness are part of the role of a soul.
Therefore, no one can experience a karmic account that they themselves are not able to tolerate and hopefully overcome. However, suffering is the sure way to settle a karmic account.

“The Father establishes the kingdom of Rama. Then, halfway through, the kingdom of Ravan is fixed according to the drama.”
🙂 Note that duality for us is between the kingdom or Rama and the Kingdom of Ravan. For other souls, everything happens in the “kingdom of Ravan,” for they will not have the opportunity to “enjoy” the kingdom of Rama. Why? Because that is their fortune… 😦
Here is another issue with explaining deep points of gyan with “black or white” devotion.
God does not establish anything other than reminding us of our spiritual nature so karmically we could be the “first ones” in “day 1” known as the Golden age. As entropy increases, other souls will “come down” in a numberwise manner according to their capacity. When they come down, that will be the experience of their “greatest stage,” which will decline as rebirth is taken.
Note that this explanation fits all souls of the world without giving the sensation that they are born in “hell” and have no chance to experience “the kingdom established by God. However, God is their loving Father as well… it is just that they are not “lucky enough… like us..” 🙂

“This is the impure world. The Father did not create the impure world.”
Relative statements. The Father does not create anything.

“You can explain the secrets of the Dilwala Temple very well. You had studied this and that is why this memorial is created on the path of devotion.”
That is the proof of the existence of Deitism. Too bad that scientists do not want to explain it that way; but there are in the world many “wonders of the world” which are truly memorials of an ancient and advanced civilization existing. Agreeing to this will certainly disturb their dogmatic calculations of a “progress/ linear oriented society.”

“You also have to take the insults because you have to become Kalangidhar (form of Krishna who was defamed and took defamation). All of you are now taking insults. I have been defamed the most. They even insult Prajapita Brahma. All the friends and relatives become upset.”
Nothing new. If you are a Brahmin soul, defamation and insults are part of the package. 🙂 at some point in time…

“People have forgotten their religion and karma.”
It should probably say: “people have forgotten their Dharma.” As your Dharma so your actions.

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