Reader’s remarks on Spiritual stage and visualizations

Below are notes from a reader about a couple of articles shared here.

Dear divine brother/sister,

Shiv Baba,the Supreme Soul is also a Supreme Teacher.No mortal can be His equal. So learn from Him. Take guidance from Him. and No one else. ALL OF THIS IS REPEATEDLY COMING IN THE MURLAI CLASS- which are regularly and daily held in all 8500 Yog-centres of Brahma Kumaris in 135 countries.All these teaching from the Supreme require nothing more than your presence.In this way, u shall avoid all the confusing and contrasting knowledge from different sources.This era called Kali-Yug in Indian scripture is famous as the era of MASS-CONFUSION because of the multiple theories, multiple teachers with their whims, fancies and indiosyncracies borne out of their Body-consciousness.

Remebrance of God, the Conscient point light , just like we the souls, with a single point focus of thoughts, is the only way to attain Satvik or Soul consciousness.With regular practice of meditation for greater and greater duration[Shiv baba says for minimum 8 hours]soon one attains as well feels this stage. A journey of thousand miles begins with a single step. Take one step and u shall soon realize that the Supreme Soul is helping u million times more. In that way, the journey becomes ever enriching and ever progressing. The sadhak or the practitioner himself or herself feels it.In that way one requires guidance from none else than the Supreme Soul, The Supreme Teacher.Believe, Experiment then experience.

i am telling from 15 years of my experience.Every thing is very easy. Our mind and guidance from the mortals make it complicated.

Need for visualization-

Visualization or guided imagery is a powerful mind-empowerment technique in psychiatry.
Another powerful technique for enhancing Mind-power or self-determination is SELF-HYPNOSIS OR AUTOSUGGESTION.
Rajayoga has three steps-
1] Bring the consciousness to Focus on the soul- an imaginary conscient point of light in the centre of the forehead[ This the psychiatrists call as visualiztion]. One passively observes thoughts going at the speed of a super fast train.Again an autosuggestion- LET GO. LET GO. DO NOT CLING.DO NOT CLING.
AFTER SOME TIME, THE FOCUS SETS IN. This is felt by the reduction in the speed of thoughts.u now able to judge the quality of thoughts- 98% negative or waste-they deplete the life-force[Prana].2% positive. Once again an autosuggestion- my negative thoughts are getting burnt out, deleted from my minds computer.
At one point of time the negative thoughts do get deleted.At this stage, positive join with consciousness which then internalizes
2] Internalization- felt by u in the form of totally relaxed physical state[Biological Relaxation Response or BRR] and a totally relaxed as well as focused state of Mind[ The Zone].In this phase, any autosuggestion given to mind goes into the deepest part of subconscious mind and gets permanently rooted there.In this way the cancers have been cured[Psycho-oncology].Intractable addictions disappear permanently.
Actually, I the soul is the master of of mind.If i go on telling “I cant visualize”the mind thinks the master is ordering not to visualize. So u stop visualizing or feel that u r unable to visualize. Contrarily,
Give the autosuggestion- I command mind and so i can visualize or nothing is impossible for me.Within 7 days to 3 months of this practice daily,u shall find that impossible becomes I am possible.
3]Cosmic communion- This stage is pure visualization.U imagine your soul has come out from your body, traversing in the cosmos to meet your Supreme Father, u meet , stand in front of Him.Now, the powerful white rays of purity and red rays of power that are emanating from the Supreme Father, are entering me thE soul.ALL OF THIS IS VISUALIZATION.
So dear friend, give positive auto-suggestions and avoid negative self-hypnosis which, right now u r doing.
If one can imagine very easily to be in the bed with most beautiful girl[ if one is a normal male] or with a handsom male[ if one is a normal female], then why it should be very difficult to imagine that u r with God and drawing all kinds of power from Him.
What do u say dear soul?

AVYAKT7 responds:

Dear soul,

It is interesting the contradictions that we can inadvertently get into.
First, you mention to just follow the teachings of ShivBaba (Actually should be BapDada) which are given at “8500 centres worldwide,” and then you give your own class on visualization for meditation, which I have never heard coming from the same Murlis that you mentioned to follow in the first place. 🙂

For your information, what I share is based on my own experience as what you have shared in your meditation/visualization note. Nothing wrong with that as long as we realize that those are our experiences.

Personally, I do not need to visualize too much anything as I can feel. Why imagine if I can experience right away? 🙂 Feeling is the experience itself.
However, we are all different and as you know BapDada has given many types of advice regarding remembrance. He hasn’t given a formula nor a recipe for every soul needs to find that for themselves.

There is no need to “close doors” to anything. There is no need to discard anything for all is useful. Spiritual knowledge is universal and for that reason, the explanations are similar in many religions and philosophies although the language and terminology may differ. In this openness, acknowledgement of other thoughts and religions is important, for we are a worldwide family.

This is the setting now in 2013; when information is coming from many directions, and rather than rejecting things left and right, to follow the “only way” it is important to learn to take aspects from others which we consider helpful to our own growth and which will help us to understand better our own religion.

BapDada mentions: “See specialties in others.” That is the vision.

Truth is meant to flow uninhibited and like water it is not meant to stay in someone’s closed hand.

Best wishes!


  1. nram

    “Truth is meant to flow uninhibited and like water it is not meant to stay in someone’s closed hand”

    I like this, even if you try to hold it with the closed hand, it will not stay and our own experience speaks for itself.

    Dear Luis brother, I guess the reader did not realize the saying of When you point one finger, there are three fingers pointing back to you.


  2. avyakt7

    Thank you dear sister Gayathri. You brought that point at the “right time.” Can I blind person from birth not have yoga because he cannot visualize? 🙂
    Many times we are so caught up with our own experiences that we call that the “truth.” Some souls will need to visualize, others do not.”Baba says this, Science says that.”. 🙂 We need to discover for ourselves, what works for us “Charity begins at home,” that is how a “master of the new world” is born.

    Best wishes!


  3. B.K.Gayathri

    Thanks dear Luis bhai for your explanations.
    Yes, we the spiritual students continue to learn. We learn from others’ experiences too.
    Regarding visualisation, i am reminded of some points from the sakar murali of 4th Feb 2013:
    “The Father says: You mustn’t remember the pictures of any subtle, corporeal or incorporeal beings. You are given an aim. People remember others when they see their pictures. Baba says: Stop looking at pictures! That is the path of devotion.”
    Baba says,“Therefore, you mustn’t remember anyone’s picture. You mustn’t even have yoga with this picture of Shiva because Shiva is not like that.”


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