Question: Dear avyakt7, In your post on ‘true spirituality’ you shared your experience as: ‘In my experience, if you understand/conquer anger and lust; you are on your way for “true spirituality,” until then; we are just “playing with dolls,” which is a necessary first step for many’. This SOUL would like to share: ‘YES conquering ANGER brings in lot of change in the behaviour of the SOUL and the dress called ‘this physical body’ it is wearing and with YOGAYUKTH MEDITATION, it is possible to bring in a change with little efforts. But when it comes to the question of LUST, which has a wide spectrum meaing ‘DESIRE’ not limiting it to ‘sexual desire’ alone, which appears to be some what more challenging to conquer and a lot of efforts are needed by the SOUL’. Would you please share your experiences and elucidate on this subject?
Thank you for your question!
To understand “desire” is to understand “ego.” Desire happens in many levels not just sexual desire as you know.
The issue is not to reject. That is to acknowledge that the issue is there, to realize that it is something to work on for if we have “conquered” a particular vice; then that one wouldn’t affect us anymore.
To illustrate; if someone was to offer me a “juicy steak” which smells good and everything, trying to tempt me with it; that person wouldn’t be able to do it, for eating meat is not a part of me. It is not “natural” for me. Thus, it is not because I am “following a Maryada,” (Although that is the way I started “reforming”) but because that Maryada is following me. 🙂 Once the sanskaras of the code of conduct are ingrained in us, there is no need to talk about “following Maryadas.”
That switch in awareness comes with certain inner work.
1) Understanding why?
2) Realization at the heart level- feelings
3) Doing what you preach.
The important aspect however, is that because I don’t eat meat, that doesn’t mean that I will reject the person trying to “tempt me” or to reject anyone who eats meat or the meat itself; but as far as possible making sure that people feel acknowledged as well. This is a more mature behavior which will bring positive karmic returns.
The same example is applicable with sex-lust. I have shared many articles about it here and in the blog: “healthy celibacy.” Obviously, I will not share here my personal experiences about this, although rest assured that I am “experienced” and I am not just sharing as another pretty theory or something that I read someplace.
As a massage therapist, I have learned a lot about sex lust. This is not for everyone to experience but it was in my Drama, because I had the capacity to go through it or for some other “reason.”
Most of us “normal” people, equal affection through touch with arousal and sexuality. Lots of individuals do not feel comfortable when being touched. There is a quality in touch which needs to come from a space of feelings (4th Chakra) that means transforming sexual energy. This happens only through sheer appreciation (beauty, strength, or other quality) without being attached or wanting to possess; it comes when we learn to acknowledge female and male energy in our own selves (Vishnu) to recognize that and to switch to male or female energy when needed.
Opposite attracts. If we use the same energy, then that attraction is over. Note that I am talking about energy and not about physical bodies; it comes down to the energy, the vibes; which is released by one person and the way it is deciphered by another.
At a higher level we can take that energy and transform it and send it back as “good feelings and pure wishes;” ( Just as BapDada has been mentioning) to be able to do this we need to be aware of what is going on inside us. This will become automatic after a while.
There is a need to know how to protect the self from energies or how to be aware of them to transform them. Let us remember one more time, we cannot reject. Rejection makes things harder to deal with. There is no conquering of anything by rejecting or by running away; however, those steps (rejection/ running away) are usually “baby steps” in understanding the vices.
Finally, as we know; we are “numberwise” on this; thus, we need to be able to perceive our “comfort zone” to stay safe in this path. “Conquering vices” is a step by step journey for most.
I looooove your site and insights . Thank you for teaching and sharing dear soul