BK reader follow up question from September 15.

1.”The questions I asked were not my beliefs but words spoken by baba through murli’s. I have tried to see from a process perspective and did not quite get it- Sins getting absolved thru remembrance- through our communion with god we are sending energy to the souls of the world to reach their destination in this journey. My thinking is that we are the ones responsible for the state of the world and we are the ones who have to fix it. Why I want to absolve the sins- If I have to enjoy the present I need to be debt free- not only that need to stop taking more debts and also earn income. Its not easy to enjoy the present when you feel huge load on your shoulders. What sins I want to absolve?- There is no register where I can go and peep into each entry and then see which ones I need to fix. I am only aware that there is a negative balance that needs to be settled. Powers from Baba- We are aware of people and situations that come on a daily basis- I feel going to the study and looking for solutions is the first step- Baba gives us direction say Go NORTH. I need to figure out what is north for me- this is meditation for me- personalising gyan and seeing whether it works during the situation if it does then great if it does not then go back to the study and repeat till such time I succeed. Now these questions I put forth are seemingly basic… Dont know if my approach is correct.”

Dear reader,

Thank you for replying back.
Baba said something in the Murli and you believe that what you heard is literally true, right??
That is your belief. It will not be a belief once you have your own experience. Then, that will become your “experience” which is not the “absolute truth” either. Until a religious follower is not willing to confront the fact of their beliefs, there cannot be an opportunity for further realizations. There will be fanaticism; but no spiritual realizations.

Avyakt7 respects every belief. It is what you believe and avyakt7 is not here to prove you right or wrong.

However, there is in your belief system a word that Baba has also mentioned: “Numberwise.” Let me ask you this. If Baba as a teacher was going to speak to a multitude of understandings and capacities. Which one he will pick to explain his teachings; the “top” understanding, the “lower” understanding, the “middle” understanding?

Evidently has to be the lowest, for otherwise, this knowledge could not be explained to the masses. In the realm of the “masses,” “black or white” teachings are necessary. “You must not do this. Never think that. etc.” This is the same for every religion, not only in your BK path.

That is why it has been said in this blog, to avoid taking things literally, which is something that every religious fanatic is good about doing. However, there is no fanatic who has ever reached a different stage of consciousness. Their own fanaticism will not allow them to see something different.

Baba has taught about “being a detached observer.” He has explained that the Drama is predestined. He has explained about karmic accounts. It is a beginner’s understanding to believe that a karmic account is a “debit or a credit in the bank of karma.” That sort of explanation, even though simple and within the reach of the masses, is not accurate at all. If we have experienced how a karmic account works, if we have observed in ourselves how actually it gets settled, then we wouldn’t take beliefs as truth. However, many are just happy when someone gives them the “answer” and you just follow it.

Those types of individuals will not be able to pass the childhood stage of spirituality. They need to be told what to do rather than experimenting for themselves so the understanding happens.

The answer cannot be written in words. Please don’t take this as another belief, but see it for yourself. Get tired of looking for written answers, for formulas in the Murlis and in other books. Nothing understood intellectually is spiritual. Those are just pointers, maps if you would; but you have to do the walk yourself, experience what works for you and to be open to life or God if you would, to show you the answer. If you are a honest searcher and spirituality is first on your list, you will get the answer only when you are ready to understand it.

Baba has also said that his teachings are according to time and circumstance in an avyakt Murli which was explained in this blog. If someone wants to pull a Murli from 1960’s and tell you that it is current, I would look at the time and circumstances. That was his teaching. Nevertheless, many seem to forget that.

Dear reader, as long as you have a belief in your mind you will only listen to those things that agree with your belief. You don’t enjoy the present by “being debt” free. You enjoy the present when you have gratitude in your heart for life itself, when you wake up and are amazed of the beauty and perfection of all, when you don’t depend on others to feel in a particular way, when you simplify your life so you have more time for your inner understanding. That is not related with having debts or credits. It is an attitude of life based on changing your vision.

The huge load over your shoulders are only in your own mind. Don’t think and just feel life, the problems are over then. It is a simple as that, but for many it will be difficult to realize. It is better to tell them to pray, to ask God for forgiveness while their minds are still in the same situation: unhappy, looking for shortcuts, looking to please others, looking for salvation, to be “better,” to get a better “status” in the future etc. With that type of mind, you will only feel a heavy weight in your shoulders.

Your belief is that you are responsible for the world. Until that heavy weight on your shoulders is completely vanished, you are not ready for the world. You can wait and settle all your karmic accounts, or you could understand your own mind by putting your own beliefs aside and by observing it.

I cannot answer your questions based on a belief with just another belief, another story to try to convince you. However, avyakt7 knows that you have understood his point.

Best wishes,

2.“Om shanti.. The date of avyakt bapdada for meeting double foreigners in this season in october 2013??”

Dear reader,
It may be. Please find out from a more accurate source than this one.
Let me repeat this again: This blog is about Spirituality for all. It is not interested in particular belief systems or practices. It is interested in the common good.

Best wishes!


  1. bims01@aol.com

    Dear Brother, I thank you for the blog you have created.I also have been following as a sheep for past 18 years. Your blog has opened my eyes to be less judgmental. To see that happiness lies in appreciating life moment by moment. It is my choice at each moment . I am beginning to see what spirituality means and I am still in nursery school.
    Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


  2. Ramesh Ramakrishnan

    Thank you for the reply- As always eye opening and filled with insight- I did not understand childhood stage of spirituality initially.. I am slowly but surely getting it. With this I can fully appreciate the maps and the pointers better to find my own north in this journey. Really don’t want to end up a fanatic I sincerely want to see myself as I am and to do this- Observe and look for signs which can make me transform from with in. Useful tools are available instead of getting dependent on the tool time to use it with understanding.

    Thank you for the pointers.. and this map will guide this soul to its destination.


    • avyakt7

      πŸ™‚ Those are the words of realization from someone who is experiencing spiritual growth… Happy to be the witness of that.
      All the best to you and many thank you’s ! πŸ™‚


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