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Comments on Sakar Murli – December 4, 2012

Essence: Sweet children, when sitting in remembrance, sit with your eyes open because you have to stay in remembrance of the Mother and Father while eating, drinking, walking and moving around.

Question: What is the reason why people wander from door to door searching for God?
Answer: Because people have said that God is omnipresent and made others wander around a great deal. If He were omnipresent, where would you find Him? They then say that He is beyond name and form. If He were beyond name and form, how would you find Him? For whom would you look? This is why they continue to wander from door to door.
You children have now stopped wandering around. You say with faith that Baba has come from the supreme abode. He is speaking to us children through these organs. However, there is nothing that is beyond name and form.

Essence for dharna:

1. Follow shrimat and show everyone the path to become pure. Create yuktis to give the Purifier Father’s introduction.

2. In order to claim your inheritance from the Father and to take refuge with the Father, become one who has destroyed all attachment. Practice remembering the Father with your eyes open.

Blessing: May you be a natural yogi who understands, finishes and transforms waste by being knowledge-full.

In order to become a natural yogi, keep your mind and intellect completely free from all waste. For this, as well as being knowledge-full, also be powerful. Although, on the basis of knowledge, you understand whether someone is right or wrong and is as they are, do not keep that inside yourself. Knowledge means understanding and a sensible one is one who knows how to understand everything, how to finish everything and also how to transform everything. So, when you sacrifice any wasteful attitude and vibrations, you will be said to be a natural yogi.

Slogan: Remain unconcerned about all waste, not about the codes of conducts.


In this Murli, Baba continues with yesterday’s topic about remembrance with open eyes (open eyes meditation) so this activity could be extended during the whole day. (8 hrs.) The other point to remember is the explanation of the 3 worlds and how the soul fits into this “space.” Note that the concept of “time” is not mentioned but “space” instead, for time is a perception while in the consciousness of the body. For instance when I say “I am getting old,” is “pure” body consciousness. The other type of time, is the one that is perceived when wearing a watch such as :”It is 10 PM. It is late .” The”10 PM,” does not exist. It is just a convention. The “it is late,” it is merely an opinion; however, paradoxically we live by those standards.
The last item to note in this Murli is the emphasis that Brahma Baba had to “debunk” the devotional beliefs of the time. In this Murli, he gives some examples. However, even in his explanations of gyan; there is the element of devotion in it, which is good to note.
Below some Murli points:

“The name of your body continues to change. You take a body, shed that and then take another and so you receive another name. The name of the soul doesn’t change. The Father says: I am a soul and you too are souls. I am the Supreme Soul who is the Resident of the supreme abode and that is why I am called the Supreme Soul.”

Note that a soul does not have a way to distinguish from one another. It is only through a role that there is that distinction. Similarly, it is mentioned that God is the “Supreme Soul,” for He resides in Parandham. Therefore, when we say “His true name is Shiva;” what do we mean? We get in trouble by using exclusive “names” to refer to the same entity, which is known as “God,” by others; however that name does not bring any description such as “Supreme Soul.”
“Shiva,” is a label from Hindu tradition meaning “ Auspicious one,” “the Pure One,” it has been translated as “benefactor,” “point,” etc. There is a description in it; such as other names given to the Supreme Soul by any other religious traditions. Even, “Baba,” is a label which I could as well replace by using “Daddy,” (English) or “Papito,” (Spanish) or some other “name.” Therefore, “Supreme Soul,” is in my view a most general “name” which could have a wide acceptance by all. My point is not to be “trapped” by “names,” and is not meant to say that calling God, Shiva is wrong or right; but to understand that it is just a label placed under a particular tradition.

“The Father says: I, the soul, always have the one name Shiva. He definitely needs to have a name. Because of not having knowledge, people say that He is beyond name and form. However, there cannot be anything in existence that is without a name or form.”
🙂 It is understood that in a tradition where there are many names for gods, goddesses and deities to worship; one particular name had to be selected to make the difference. In Gyan a differentiation between Shiva and Shankar has been made, even though; they are the same thing according to “wiki-picky,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankar
Labels, names. We get in wars to defend them.

“There are the three elements: Corporeal, subtle and incorporeal. Souls would definitely reside in a space. Therefore, there are three skies. The play takes place in this sky and so light is needed. There is not a play in the incorporeal world. That is called the element of brahm. Souls reside there. That is the highest of all. There are three worlds, that is, three storeys (stories) of the world.”
A neat explanation of the 3 worlds. Note the sentence:” souls would definitely reside in a space,” for further churning.

“These are the three worlds. Silence, movie, talkie. Shiv Baba sits here and explains these things. Do you have to remember Shiv Baba with your eyes closed? No. Why do other people close their eyes? Because their eyes deceive them.”
In this Murli paragraph, we can understand that what we perceive through our eyes have lots of deception, that is illusion, that is Maya. That perception is what we need to transform. Baba’s method is to have our intellect “occupied” in remembrance, so our perceptions will be fleeting by rather than staying through thinking about it.

“There are innumerable opinions. In the same family the opinion of the wife would be different from that of her husband. One would believe in purity and the other one wouldn’t.”
We are in the world of “variety.” That variety comes a consequence of different perceptions of reality as per Drama.

“The soul says: I shed a body and take another. His name, form, place, time, friends and relatives are all different. All of those change in the next birth.”
A good reason not to be attached to anyone, but love for everyone.

“There is a mela at Allahabad where the three rivers meet (Triveni). That is not a meeting. There should be a meeting of the rivers with the ocean. That is a meeting of rivers, where two rivers meet. They then say that the third river is incognito. There cannot be an incognito river. There are just two rivers; only two are visible. One is clean water and the other is dirty water. There is not another one. There are the Ganges and the Jamuna. There aren’t three rivers. That too is a lie. There isn’t a meeting either.”
I loved this point, for it basically did back then what this role is doing here, which is to clarify some aspects of gyan from the perspective of not being heavily influenced by Hinduism and its devotional stories. Even the way we understand gyan now, is not supported by “pure gyan,” but still have devotional roots in it.
Being “devotion free” is something that takes time.

“An imperishable part of 84 births is recorded in the soul, which is as tiny as a point. It can never be erased. This whole play is immortal. The cycle continues to turn. It isn’t that the world is standing in one place.”
Everything that exists is eternal, for it repeats. The parts of the souls are not “recorded.” ( We cannot take that word literally but merely explains a concept) The parts are eternal “conjoins” of a soul, that is the way a soul expresses and experiences and this knowledge is what supports our understanding of what “reality” really is. It is a role.

“After half the cycle the world becomes old. Then you have to receive happiness in the new world. I Myself come and give you that. I purify you, whereas Ravan makes you impure. I give you your inheritance whereas Ravan curses you. This is a game. Ravan is your great enemy.”
This is a neat and simple explanation of duality. Note however, that it falls into devotional stories. We cannot go deeper unless we take that devotional aspect for a “story” does not have depth in itself, it is just a story which is meant to explain concepts. Once the concepts are understood, we could go deeper into them.

“In order to become a natural yogi, keep your mind and intellect completely free from all waste. For this, as well as being knowledge-full, also be powerful.”
I loved the blessing. Even to keep in our intellect the perception of who is right and wrong, is wasteful. We need to transform that waste into “useful.”