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Why the Drama was created ? Follow up by readers with questions.

The following and questions from readers pertaining this article about the existence of the Drama.

Reader 1:”Thank u for answering my question.
It does provide a better perspective but still rotates around “what” drama is n perhaps also how one should look at it from a gyani / intellectual angle or perspective.
However that big WHY still remains unanswered or are we saying it that we should simply understand it as a fact n not question facts or it’s reason of existence as in why it exists, repeats, was created or recreated? Hoping u can throw some more light πŸ™‚ thanks n blessings ”

Reader2:“If it is within Drama to “express” and “experience”, and by process generate some knowledge of the ages as we go along, then how come knowledge accumulated within the cycle is created and destroyed, leaving everything lost? Should we think scientifically about how Man started his journey into 5000 yrs? And the only lesson we learn is at the end of the Confluence age that we are actually Souls?

If we lived 5000 yrs in a body that we chose/ attracted, then what is the length of time for being in essence who we trully are, the Soul? Reason being, I know it took one soul to want to be born in this world at Satyug, but did we all need to go through this as well? Why did we not rather remain in the soul world as souls, if that is our true nature? Feels rather monotonous to go through a repeated Cycle.
Regards, ”

Avyakt7 responds:

Great questions! See if your logical, scientific minded, analytical questions could understand this paradox:
“WHen you cease to try to understand; you will understand… without understanding.” πŸ™‚
Have you experienced that? Probably not, that is “why” you are looking for “why’s.”
Spirituality does not have “facts.” That is science. Spirituality has experiences.
Spirituality does not have analysis. That is science. Spirituality has synthesis. (The view of how everything is a unity- Science on the other hand seeks to understand by dividing pieces.)

Let me ask you this: If I give you a “reason” as to why there is a Drama, how would that change anything ? I mean , you could believe me or not. You would like for me to get some “proof” and once I got the proof for you..what else? Is your intellectual mind satisfied? So what? You will be still the same. There will not be no inner transformation/experience and this intellectual information does not have the power to bring that in you.

Spirituality is not concerned about theories and ideas. The proof of the truth of this knowledge is your own transformation and experience of you the soul.

I am not going around your valid questions. I am just observing the validity of those.
Why do you exist? Why God exists? Why , why, why…. I exist because I am here. God exists, because He has always existed… Are any of these answers “good for you”? How about if I say, ” Dr. Brainy Ann von Lisys has discovered that God exists through a process of extrapolation of order of magnitudes considering the value of the Doppler effect in the context of general relativity.”

So now, you should believe that God exists. No doubt. Right?
What that actually means to you the soul? (Not the scientific Ph.D mind) NOTHING AT ALL. πŸ™‚ See?

Now on the other questions:
1) ” how come knowledge accumulated within the cycle is created and destroyed, leaving everything lost? ”

Answer:Gyan clearly states that NOTHING is perishable. Everything is eternal. Nothing is lost, it just emerges at the right time. We always have knowledge within us, but that knowledge emerges at the right time. We do not learn, we remember.

2) “And the only lesson we learn is at the end of the Confluence age that we are actually Souls?”

Answer: You are thinking in your “traditional scientific minded, analytical way.” As mentioned that “thinking” does not fit “spiritual reality.” We do not learn any lesson at all. We are not here to “learn,” that is a word that we have learned when we go to school for “acceptable brainwashing.” We are in this to experience , meaning to live life. Proof? whatever “you” do it doesn’t matter in the unlimited, “you” will be “YOU” again in due time. See that? However, the paradox is that what you do is important for the whole Drama, because you are part of it.
As long as our thinking is only looking to please the “I” we will not understand the Drama. Kill the “I.” Liberate “yourself” from that tyranny.

3) “If we lived 5000 yrs in a body that we chose/ attracted, then what is the length of time for being in essence who we truly are, the Soul?

Answer: We didn’t choose. We didn’t attract. It is part of the roles according to our capacity. “You” were given a body/intelligence etc, which is needed in the Drama for “you” are capable of performing that role. No one is better than anyone else. We have ALWAYS been who we truly are. The issue is that we didn’t realize that.. πŸ˜‰

4) “Reason being, I know it took one soul to want to be born in this world at Satyug, but did we all need to go through this as well? Why did we not rather remain in the soul world as souls, if that is our true nature? Feels rather monotonous to go through a repeated Cycle.”

Answer: It feel like it because you know how everything works mentally, intellectually and EGO wants to continue “improving” becoming something greater every time.. right? We must continue “Upgrading,” we must continue achieving, getting a degree, obtaining knowledge, becoming powerful, etc, etc… See that you are asking based on your own traditions and “school like mentality.” Life does not follow your traditions nor your understanding. Please see this.
In the soul world you are not able to express nor experience, meaning, you do not live. Do you rather have that? If your answer is YES… It will not happen… πŸ˜‰ There is nothing “you” can do about it…except get rid of that “YOU.” (actually “I” not you) πŸ™‚
When we cease to try to understand, we will understand without understanding.

I appreciate both your questions. Thanks again!

Question: Why this drama was created? And why 5000 yr repetition? Baba always answers this by saying that this question is invalid n that this drama was never created it was always there. I am also bound by this drama! How can we better understand this: any other perspective than just accepting b’cos Our Baba, God is saying it?

Great question! I like your boldness. πŸ™‚

Let me be straightforward. The Drama wasn’t created but it is re-created at the same time. πŸ™‚ Paradox.
The Drama is all that exists for us souls, for we are part of it. The Drama is an extension of our own eternity.
The Drama is the opportunity to express and experience duality, the opposites which complement each other.
The Drama is the story on how a seed (soul) becomes a full grown tree, so it can become a seed again!

The Drama expresses the process of creation, sustenance and destruction to start creation again!
The length of time between “creations” or “destructions,” is 5000 years according to gyan. It could have been any other length of time. However, because we experience different bodies up to 84 times, then that length obviously cannot be 40,000 years or more, because according to gyan, the maximum amount of time that a body can exist is about 150 years and as “things degrade” our life span becomes shorter.

We can better understand this by experience. We need to be aware to see that I cannot choose how long I want to live. I cannot choose my parents, the type of body/health/Intelligence that I will “receive.” Are you aware of that?

It appears to me that a high percentage of people in the world do not want to look at that, and they just want to believe that “they can change everything they want.” πŸ™‚ Without seeing that what they “want” is just a product of their own traditions and belief systems. That means “true” brainwashing has happened. πŸ™‚

You are not “bound” by the Drama. You are the Drama! The Drama is in you… what you need to “understand” is that “YOU” does not exist… πŸ™‚ neither “me.” WE ARE IT. πŸ™‚

Once Ego is understood, we will not feel anymore trapped by the Drama and “predestination.”
Individuality is an illusion.

Best wishes!

Question:The kalpa (cycle) repeats after every 5000 yrs exactly. What is way to remember the act we performed 5000 yrs back so it will be helpful for me to solve today’s problems?

πŸ™‚ Great question. Thank you very much.

What we have done before, is what we will do again.
In that sense, past and future..are all the same!
(it even rhymes! πŸ™‚ )

Even though we know that we are going to “die,” (leave the body) there is nothing that we could do to stop that. It has to be experienced.
Similarly with the so called “problems.” We need to go through them if it is in the Drama of life. One of the greatest point in knowledge is that:“The Drama is beneficial for all.”

Whatever happens to you now, has benefit because will allow you to be “you” again…in 5000 years. πŸ™‚ We will learn some lessons, we will move in time with different experiences, but the bottom line is that every experience will take you to “now” again and again. Every “now” is eternal.

Therefore, “enjoy the problems.” They will go away to come back. Once we are aware of that through knowledge, we see the futility of worrying about the future. What matters is NOW.

Gyan gives us the tools to clear our minds from all perceptions and enjoy a worry-free mind. Last, “we do not solve problems.” Problems solve themselves.

To answer your question right to the point; you do not need to remember what happened 5000 years ago. You do not need to solve anything. You just “need” to enjoy the ride, because if you do that NOW, it is guaranteed that you will do that again! It will be eternal. πŸ™‚

Best wishes and thank you again!