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Question: Dear brother, Just realized that karma is the Creator of this drama. karma decides the role of every soul, at a point god has to come down to covey this message so that direction of our action can switch from one side to another then karma creates the paradise (I know childish term)…but the answer to who the creator of this world should be “karma”. Your thoughts?

Thank you for your question!

Dear soul,

Good realization! You are in the right direction. Now, let us think. What do you call the Karma of all souls at all times? 🙂

Let me give you a hint… It is starts with capital “D,”…. Drama.

Now, everything that exists is called the Drama. When we separate actors, we perceive parts of that Drama. That is karma.
No one creates the Drama therefore, no one creates Karma. If you go deeper, you will see that “karma” has another layer. Actions “begin” with thoughts and feelings/emotions; that is “sanskaras.” Therefore, the Drama is made up of sanskaras which in turn become Karma which in association become Drama. See the picture?

Now you can go even deeper than that and realize that there is no “beginning,” therefore no need for creator. Who is first? Drama, Karma or sanskaras?

That question will be similar to : who is first an elephant or his trunk, or his tail ?
Who created that elephant? Then we say God.. but then who created God? … see the picture? There is a problem with that word “creation”… 🙂


Best wishes!

Question: Understanding of PAVITRATHA (Purity) Dear Avyakt7 ‘the connecting thread of knowledge’, to this SOUL, ‘This SOUL’, being a CHILD, in its quest for understanding the KNOWLEDGE(Gyan) taught by BABA through MURLIS, seeks ELUCIDATION with regard to PURITY (Pavitratha), which is frequently referred to in MURLIS and which gives a feeling of FOUNDATION STONE for the SOUL, when it enters this LOKUIK world, as per the script of the DRAMA. Whether, a SOUL, in it’s MANASA (Mind), VACHA (Speaking), KARMANA (Action) does an ACT without ‘DUALITY’ (Shall I put it as Double Standard?), can be termed as PAVITRATHA (Purity)?

Thank you for your good question!
Dear soul,
Duality is an experience. Actions are according to our state of consciousness. Therefore, if our state of consciousness is of a detached observer, we will not experience duality. Moreover, in that state of detached observer there is “no one,” as far as “doing anything.”

In that state there is “Purity,” for anything “impure” will allow you to experience duality.
Sakar Murlis when referring to “Purity” most of the time refers to “celibacy.” But as we can see, practicing celibacy does not mean that we will not experience duality. That is why in avyakt Murlis, BapDada has mentioned that “Purity” is more than celibacy.

Best wishes.

Question: dear brother, often there is an action performed in a consciousness at that time it would seem right, later on when relaizing it , it would have been a wrong/negative action. As the first action was part of the drama so was the consiousness when I performed that action. What makes it hard is when you realize that it was the wrong action and start to worry. But when you see it thru the glass of knoweldge there is no point in thinking about this action as it was (including the consiousness) part of the drama, repeating itself? Do you agree?

Thank you for your thoughtful question.
Dear soul,

There is no point in thinking in “black or white” terms as “good or bad” actions. We need to use those words merely for descriptive purposes, so we can understand what we refer to. As you are finding out, every action is necessary as it is but at the same time, there is a consequence on that action whether we perceive it or not.

What we need to remember is that “acting” is a natural consequence of “being.” Therefore, your spiritual state is what determines the consequence and quality of your actions. In the process of “transforming the self” there will be many “mistakes,” which we can understand because we have knowledge, that those actions weren’t mistakes after all, but paradoxically; necessary activities to “learn,” (remember) through the consequences of those activities so we can “arrive” where we need to be, that is what we know as settling “karmic accounts.”

Lastly, “you” are not separated from the Drama. Your activities merely reflect your state of consciousness. That state of consciousness is what is needed at that particular time from “your role.” That is why there is no need to feel guilty, but to accept the responsibility and the consequences of our actions.

Best wishes!

Question: Dear brother, As stated “If in fact, activities are not good or bad in itself, but according to our consciousness; this point opens a wide door of understanding. In my view, this is the most important point to churn in this Murli.” Do you think Consciousness takes over the action in terms of karmic return, such as, if the action outside (from other person’s view) might seem ordinary or in fact, inappropriate however if the consciousness behind the action was very positive, will the return of that karma be positive? in that sense it is not merely just performing ordinary action but rather performing ordinary action with the right consciousness?

Thank you for your great question!

Dear soul… You made my day.. I was waiting to see if someone would catch the drift in that point which otherwise will be mostly overlooked.
I agree with you. This is a Drama. Roles are playing. Our consciousness is what makes the difference.

For instance, a BK soul asked one time about “firing one of his employees.” obviously this is something that we, spiritual minded individuals; try to avoid. However, it depends in the consciousness of the time: What I feel, my wishes, my stage and the sense of duty.

If we look at the person pulling the switch to kill an inmate sentenced to die siting on “Sparky,” (electric chair) Do you think that he will carry the “sin” of killing over him? If you drive a car and run over a dog inadvertently, do you think that you will have the blame and karmic return of killing such animal?

Our consciousness wasn’t in it. Many times we have to perform a role in society, whether our knowledge is great or not, but we need to know that it is a role.

BapDada is a great example of someone playing a role. He is the Father of the eternal children. Sometimes He will praise them, some other times He will be tough with them. He knows better. He knows that not everyone is at that stage; but He plays his role according to time.

Of course, situations will happen only if our karmic accounts call for it. Don’t expect the Dalai Lama to pull the switch on an inmate. That is not something that he will have to deal with in his life due to his consciousness, which means current karmic accounts.

I believe that those lines should be churned even with greater depth. I appreciate your realization.

Best wishes!

Going deeper into “right actions.”

Is an action right by itself? For instance the lack of activity in: ” Do not kill.” Are there any instances when killing / taking someone’s life or your own, could be considered to be “good”? (as shocking at this may seem, just consider it) If so, what makes an action right or wrong?
Perhaps are there universal “boxes” of good actions and bad actions, right or wrong? or this is something that only enlightened souls can figure out? What makes an action “right”?

One sakar Murli inspired me to look into this. It was mentioned that actions are performed by deities as well, but as we know; those actions are “neutral.” In other words,: “I eat now; which is an action, but that action could be sinful or just merely an action with either “negative” or “positive” karmic return, but in the golden age it is “neutral. “ Why? 🙂

The simple universal answer: It is a matter of soul consciousness.

In that simplicity, lies something deeper.A Deity will not kill. A deity doesn’t need a “code of conduct” or “morality.” Those things are “built in.” – “You shall not kill” is not a commandment needed for them nor even heard of.

Ever wonder why Baba hasn’t mentioned in the BK Maryadas, “you shall not kill”?
That brings the awareness that Bks are beyond that. There is no need to mention that “law” as other religions have it; however, we are looking here into the “rightfulness of an action” by itself.
in the Bhagavad Gita, was mentioned that Krishna told Arjuna: “Do your duty and fight. Your relatives are already death.”

In the “unlimited” as Baba points out; the soul is imperishable, thus actions do not matter as long as they are necessary for “self preservation” of the Drama . As such any activity as we know, is according to the Drama. However, when we consider the law of karma; actions matter, because we will experience the consequence of those actions. Yet another paradox!

Killing does not matter in the unlimited for we are immortal souls. It is impossible to kill someone. See that? The unlimited does not have any moral standards which we are used to (in linear thinking- limited thinking- black and white world- right or wrong world.)
Killing matters from the individual perspective, for the consequence of killing will be experienced. There is suffering as a return. That is what the law of karma teaches us.

The act of taking someone’s life have many circumstances surrounding it (euthanasia, wars and such comes to mind, even Baba mentioned one time that those who sacrificed, took their own life in Kashi for love to Shiva had their sins absolved for one birth….Interesting return for a plain suicide!) Thus, actions in itself lack morality as well. Here is when the word “intention” comes into the picture. Is my “intention” tinted by “my moral standards”?

Then, there is no “pure intention.” There is ego in it. Please consider that.
When any activity is performed from an “ego” stand point, it will not “flow” with the Drama. The return will be the experience of duality.

A “normal” soul will perform mostly sinful actions because activities are meant to satisfy the ego. Actions are tinted by the vices; which will be experienced by the soul in return as duality.
For instance, “Mahatma” Gandhi was murdered. A pure soul cannot experience that karmic account. Simple math.

The sense of “duty” is not an indicator of “right or wrong” activity as the example in the Bhagavad Gita. It is just a mere moral standard.
Nothing wrong with having moral standards, but someone in the “unlimited” can see that “morality” is for impure souls only. A pure soul does not need “moral standards.” The activity of a pure soul cannot bring suffering to others or the self.

According to the level of soul consciousness of a person, so the quality of the activity will be. More purity, less morality. Less purity; greater moral standards are needed.
Nudity in a child is alright. In a grown up is considered offensive. Morality.

A “normal” person sees only activities, actions being right or wrong and surrounds the self by the perception of those actions. This is “right” that is not.

Many times when we see someone in “need,” we would like to play “good” and act upon that moral standard that what I am doing is “right.” However, even the thought of “ I am helping that person now, I will be helped in the future” or “I am good” or “I am building my golden age castle with every action now,” those thoughts are not pure thoughts. There is impurity, mixture in them…ego.
When that action comes up automatically without the thought of “I” in the picture of the mind, and that action brings benefit to the self and to others in an “unlimited way” then something “right” is happening.

“Doing nothing doing, to get things done” only when ego is gone. That is a “neutral action.”

Point in depth: Sanskaras are Karma, and Karma is Drama

Note: For those not familiar with BK knowledge, there are 3 terms that need to be understood at the intellectual level and at the practical level as well. Sanskaras, karma and Drama.
In brief, sanskaras are our tendencies in life: likes and dislikes, ways of being, etc.
Karma are activities that we perform which have a consequence. It means: “action.”
The “Drama” is how life goes. Bill Gates dropped out of College, however; he made a software empire.
Bob Simpleton, dropped out of college and now he is flipping burgers at McDonald’s. What made the difference? Is intelligence/drive/luck something that we can alter at will or it is “fortune”? That is Drama.

1. The soul has sanskaras: Good and Bad
2. Karma is neutral, sinful or just actions. Then you have “elevated actions.”
3. The Drama is beneficial.
Are those 3 lines above familiar ? Yes, those lines belong to the Raja Yoga course 101; also known as the “7 day course.”
Let us go a bit into the depth of those 3 lines.
If in fact the Drama is beneficial, then no matter what activities are performed through having a sanskara (good or bad,) that activity will still be beneficial. No matter what kind of Karma is performed, there is benefit in that. Otherwise, if there is not benefit, then the Drama cannot be called beneficial. 🙂
When we are learning the introduction to Raja Yoga, it is good to “separate” those 3 concepts:
The soul has sanskaras. We perform actions (Karma.) The Drama is predestined. Then, we can add some “morality” to those concepts : Good and Bad sanskaras, good and bad karma and “unfortunate/fortunate Drama,” in that way, we could strive to “shape up” and to be on the line of “good” and God.
The interesting point is that Sanskaras come already with the soul and they will play according to time. This is what the popular saying in BK circles refer to as: “The thought came in my mind…”
Please be aware of this. We are going deep here. This is not elementary Raja yoga.
We have been in the cycle of time going in “automatic pilot” for the last 4,900 years. Then, all of the sudden, we finally get this knowledge which tells us that we need to “elevate ourselves,” that is the call according to time.
As we were experiencing “entropy” or going “down the ladder,” the “bad sanskaras” entered on the “Unlimited stage.” Not all of the sudden, but increasing little by little. Is this good or bad? Is this sinful or blessed?
It is just necessary. Part of the play, the Drama. There is no need to add “morality” to something which is necessary and will repeat again. Please let us keep this point in mind, if you have been following this so far.
Now, we realize that we need to change, to transform. We hear: “transform your actions,” is it really “our actions” which need to be transformed? NO… That is a categorical NO.
We need to emerge Sanskaras according to time. Golden aged ones which are closer to the original qualities of the soul. (therefore, the fire of love towards Baba or transformation through gyan, love or a relationship as Baba mentioned in the Avyakt Murli from 7-8-12)
We cannot perform sinful actions unless we have sinful sanskaras as well. In other words, sinful sanskaras means, sinful actions (karma.) That Karma becomes the Drama of that individual or group of individuals. Note that I am using the word “sinful” for illustrative purposes only, not to add “morality” to it.
Therefore, Karma are really sanskaras. It is the same “flea just in a different dog.” When that flea jumps into several dogs in time, we call that “hobbie” as Drama.
Let us remember then the importance of a sanskara.
Our minds have been trained to just see 2 states: “On or off,” “good or bad, ” scientific or non-scientific.” That is a very limited view of something which is “unlimited;” Real life according to gyan.
A sanskara produces a thought which then manifests in the physical realm into an action. That action is not “individual” It is meshed together with other reactions and potential actions. Even in the Golden age, actions are neutral (no give and take as we usually say) but, there is degradation of that activity. In other words, little by little there will be give and take, just as a day changes into night. This is neither good nor bad. Just necessary. Part of the “3D-movie,” with surround sound and panoramic screen. 🙂
Now, we can see how sanskaras are related with karma and Drama. They cannot be separated for it is the “seed” expanding into a fruit. The fruit is in the seed already.