Tagged: advanced party
Question: I had asked this the day before too.. When baba invokes other souls in the subtle region whilst offering bhog.. these souls are usually advanced party souls living and growing up in another family… what would they be experiencing? I know its a curiosity question and probably does not deserve an answer.. if that is the case then do let me know
Thank you for your question!
Dear soul,
As mentioned in another post, I am trying to answer no more than 3 questions every day. Your question yesterday was the 5th.
Unfortunately, there is no way for me to know what is going on when Baba invokes souls. The typical conversation is: ” Are BKs ready? We (Advance party) are ready…” 🙂
We need to be mindful that we do not know many things about the subtle region. For instance, Dadi Prakashmani has taken birth; however, we can still be in contact with her body of light as she was in her BK role. There is certainly a connection between our bodies of light in different life times; but I don’t want to speculate in something which I do not have experience nor full understanding.
Best wishes!
Question: Hi brother,I have searched about advance party on net also but can you explain me about it more?
Thank you for your question!
As I mentioned before, I already shared what I know. Unless I can find an avyakt Murli where BapDada mentions about the Advanced party, I have no reason to speak about something which I, nor anyone else knows. If there is a BK out there who has some other information coming from BapDada, it will be gladly shared as long as we can refer that to a Murli.
Best wishes!
Question: Om Shanti The comments and the Answer you give to many question are very beneficial to us all. I refer to Murli of 2nd Nov, I always have these question in my mind. first Baba always says that you receive the inheritance for 21 births in golden and silver age but when you give the course you say 8 births of GA and 12 births of SA. Also the average age of 150 years in GA do not add to 1250 years (1200) similarly average age of 120 or 125 for 12 births do not add to 1250. Also please let me know your churning if the Maharathhi who left their bodies (Dadiji Jagdishbhai etc) if their next birth is the 1st birth or 84th birth? The Advance party will be responsible to give births to Krishna and Radha so would golden age and confluence age will run Parerral for some time? Also so many times you answer that Brahma Vishnu and Shanker,apart from Brahma Shanker and Vishnu do not exist. Behind the throne of Laxmi and Narayan, there is the picture of Vishnu. How come that picture appears there, some kind of memory of Bhakti?
Thank you for your thought out question and kind words!
As far as your first question, the “churned” answer was given here:
http://bkgyan.com/2012/08/18/starting-point-of-the-golden-age-and-the-mystery-of-the-21-births-resolved/
As far as your computation on “averages,” it does not mean that 8 x 150 = 1200 so 50 years are missing. The Sakar Murli just relates Brahma Baba’s soul going through the cycle of time as the “model” for explanations. Only Brahma Baba’s life through time has been disclosed with referential points. Brahma Baba takes the full 84 births and when he left his body (1969,) that was his last birth in this “cycle.” Brahma Baba takes 8 births in the Golden age. BUT his second “birth” (name change) is when the Golden age “starts officially.” (When his name changes from Krishna into Narayan 1st -see articles above.) In those 8 births, Brahma Baba could have been 200 years old in one of his births, 145 in another, etc. The word “average” means that we take all values for every birth and add them up and then divide them by 8. That is all. It doesn’t mean that every birth has to be 150 years and also, it does not mean that everyone has to take 8 births of 150 years. Consider Dadi Janki’s age for an “Iron age” average of life expectancy.
Also bear in mind that the “cycle of time” is not a “static line” dividing a circle in 4 equal parts. That is just an easy explanation. The cycle moves continuously without a break and just like you cannot tell when the day starts at dawn, similarly with the ages in the cycle of time. That is the way of Nature, not the way of how an artist would like to paint a picture. 🙂
Consequently, we do not know which “birth number,” Dadi Ji is in or Jagdish bhai. We will start counting again when they experience their first birth after “destruction,” and that could be just like Brahma Baba, before the “official Golden age” or after. That hasn’t been disclosed.
As far as you question of the “advanced party;” the advanced party will allow the “Golden age” to exist. The “Confluence age” is only for Brahmin souls, not for Advance party souls. The confluence age finishes when Brahma Baba takes birth as Krishna. A “new” point to churn is to note that “advanced party” souls are neither in the “confluence age,” nor in the “Iron age.” 🙂
In your last question: Laxmi and Narayan signify Vishu. Also the Sakar Murli, mentions that “Brahma becomes Vishnu,” meaning that Brahma will be a resident of the Golden age.
“Brahma Baba” is the name of a role of a soul. Vishnu is just a mythical name which represents something (sustenance, golden age, the perfect couple, the in-laws, etc) Same with Shankar (destruction, bodiless stage, etc.)
Best wishes!