Thank you for your question.
That question of “when?” is a problem only when you are looking for a “beginning.”
The logical response is that there is no beginning for something which is eternal, for eternal conveys that “has always existed.”
Let us do a “logical” exercise. Let us say that we believe in “creation.”
Let us blame it on God as the actual “creator” of things. Then the question is: Who created God? 🙂
For some reason our devotional feelings (bhakti) have no issue on that simple question. We usually say, well God has always existed! If we want to be more “childish,” then we can say: “Is God separate from the space that He exists in? If He is separate then; who created that space where He is in?
If He is not separate then is God the space where He is in? 🙂 Logic can get us in “word trouble.”
Scientists came up with a “Big bang” for a beginning of everything. “It was a big explosion.” However, how the elements which “created” the explosion came into existence? Who created those elements? 🙂 Then, they will tell you that “You don’t need to ask this question, for everything started when time started and that is when the explosion happened…:-) BUt, we know that THAT IS NOT LOGICAL…:-)
Dear soul, forget about the world “creation” and your confusion will magically disappear. That word doesn’t exist but only in a dead dictionary surrounded by dead words. It is an illusion of the mind and illusion which is strengthened through our traditions and culture but an illusion nevertheless.
Existence has always existed.
It is said that a picture is worth a million words… or just a thousand? Anyway let me play western scientist and take away “0s”to fit my theory.
You can see 3 important pictures about world population in this article.
The first picture (displayed by Google but not made by them as a disclosure) happily shows us that we have grown from 3 billion people to 7 billion people in 51 years!
That is despite 2 major world wars, famine, lack of resources, etc. which is reasonable to expect as population grows and entropy increases.
Now, keep that in mind when someone asks how is it possible for the cycle to be only 5000 years.
If you read this post about when “man appeared on Earth” according to European historians, Man appeared “ indisputably” based on the fossils that they have found 2 million years ago! 🙂
Here is the link: http://www.bigsiteofamazingfacts.com/when-did-humans-appear-on-earth
Please note this: “A fossil skull fragment discovered in England is the oldest known example of modern-day humans: a 300,000-year-old Homo sapien.”
Remember what I mentioned that science is made in the UK and the USA? 🙂 I wonder why they didn’t discover that in Africa (where man appeared) or in Asia, where the largest population resides?
Ladies and Gentlemen: How is it possible for human beings to have appeared on this Earth 2 MILLION YEARS AGO and at the same time had a population of only 1 BILLION human beings up to 1830, when we can go in 51 years from 3 BILLION to 7 BILLION human beings?
I am not a rocket scientist, but I recognize when something smells “fishy.” This smells “fishy” to me.
Of course, do not ask a scientist how man appeared on Earth? Or how everything started? For that would be very amusing to hear.
Now, if you please give your attention into the second graphic below, you will see the top countries with the largest population in the world. Note that we know that Pakistan was part of India; therefore, India by all means has the largest population in the world. Now, How is it possible for the countries who have the largest population in the world to be in Asia and yet, scientists think that “man appeared in Africa,” but yet we see only 1 country from Africa (Nigeria) as being number 8? Mystery huh?
Is it possible that Indian people reproduce faster than Africans, even though Africans had 1.5 million years in their advantage (since man appeared there) to procreate?
That smells “fishy” to me… 🙂
On the last graphic below, Man needed not 2 million years but now 50,000 years to get to 1 BILLION people. (what happened to the other 1.9 million years?)
How is it possible for the population to grow 4 billion in 51 years from 1960, but yet only 1 Billion “in the beginning” having more than 1.5 million years to reproduce like rabbits, for TV wasn’t invented yet? 🙂
That smells “fishy” to me….
When someone disputes to you about how come Brahmin souls think that this cycle is only of 5000 years rather than a linear time of 2 MILLION years, please just show them this article.
I do not know what is the logic behind it. 🙂
Science says that we have existed for millions of years and that everything had a beginning.
Gyan says that everything is eternal and that there is a cycle of 5000 years.
Who do you believe? 🙂
In my experience, I have experienced “deja vues,” “fortune telling,” and had premonitions. All of that proves to me that in fact there is a cycle of time. If you want further “proof” about a cycle at the intellectual level, then I urge you to read this article here. it has plenty of logic and reasoning behind it as well as scientific theories. A must read for analytical minds… 🙂
As far as the “dinos,” i have written on that extensively here.
My position, as explained in the article is very practical: Does it matter whether Dinosaurs existed or not?
if you read that article you will find that there are many things which science is not sure of and that as far as I am concerned, make those statements as simple “theories.”
I am leery about the “millions and millions of years” story… as well as the artists drawings of dinosaurs…. Better stick with the Flintstones! 🙂