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Question on Brahma Kumaris beliefs

“SCIENCE VERSUS 5000 YEARS OF TIME CYCLE ! following are my questions.. 1.)5000 years of world drama is said to be like a recorded cd ,which plays the same thing even if repeated N no.of times if so, then what is the significance of the KARMIC ACCOUNT, what is my role here? all my thoughts and actions become predetermined then how can we say we create our own destiny? 2.)If the destruction of this world is going to happen with NUCLEAR WARFARE it will make the entire planet inhabitable for the next hundreds or thousand’s of years,{ japan is an example,even now radiation and related diseases persists in those regions} earth will become more polluted and hostile than ever before ! if so then when will SATYUG the GOLDEN AGE start? it will have to take a long break! 3.)The existence of DINOSAURS and other extinct life forms on EARTH is confirmed by SCIENCE, fossil remains and carbon dating results are proofs for their existence but, there is no mention in our 5000 year cycle that such species existed, did GOD FORGET THEM?.”

Dear reader,
Thank you for your questions!
I am afraid your questions came a bit late… This blog changed its path a couple of months ago from Brahma Kumaris knowledge to Spiritual knowledge in general and for all.

However, i will use this opportunity to give additional explanation and then answer your questions.. so bear with me! 🙂

Beliefs are out. Experience is in. A couple of days ago, it was shared that once the realization about our own eternity is experienced, then beliefs are useless.

Beliefs are “good,” when someone experiences protection and support through a religious system. It is the time for reformation.
Beliefs are “bad,” when they “box you,” and seclude your experience of life and make you part of the “cookie cutter” machinery.

Therefore, beliefs are neither “good, nor bad,” but useful according to someone’s timing in life.

In my experience, out of all the beliefs systems that I have been exposed to (Many, I need to say) Brahma Kumaris knowledge is the most complete, the most reasonable, intellectually speaking. This blog has plenty of articles about that.

The issue has been the way it was interpreted.

Here a little example:
So you know about an eternal, repetitive cycle. Then, why make so much fuss about “destruction,” when we can realize about our own eternity? Think about that.

So you know about an eternal, predestined movie; therefore, what you think you do out of your free will, is part of that movie. Your free will is predestination and predestination is your experience of free will. 🙂
This is just an intellectual concept, but there is the experience which is most important.

When you realize about your own eternity, then the movie of “doing things,” should not matter, when “being” is the most important thing. As it is “being” then “doing” aligns. This is what this blog has emphasized.

When the “little child” needs reformation, the “scary” thought of “destruction is just ahead,” makes you do something to earn your “paradise..” Do you see that? Death by itself is not scary enough, for everyone will die some day… But to be “saved” from destruction, makes it special… There is no death, but we die. I hope you could grasp this.. I know you will 🙂 There is “destruction” but we are eternal? I hope this is not hard to understand… 🙂

In my experience, the whole “experience” in Brahma Kumaris was to “reform myself.” Celibacy is the main ingredient that Brahma Kumaris uses for that. This does not mean that celibacy is “good” or “bad.” It is the “tool” used for reformation.
Why?
Even though it is one of the toughest “tools” for reformation, celibacy will allow you to experience a different consciousness when we are not repressing ourselves. This is the challenge. This is not only physical repression, but also emotional and how you approach life despite your unusual practice, will dictate your degree of “advancement.” Once you have experienced that consciousness, then you know better.

That is my experience in a “nutshell.” I would have not been able to go through it, if I did not have divine help. Here is where your “karma” comes into the picture. This “spiritual bug” comes from many past lives not just this one.

OK.. now into your questions 🙂

1.)5000 years of world drama is said to be like a recorded cd ,which plays the same thing even if repeated N no.of times if so, then what is the significance of the KARMIC ACCOUNT, what is my role here? all my thoughts and actions become predetermined then how can we say we create our own destiny?

Your karmic account is your own movie included in the “big movie.” The Drama. Your role is what you will experience as “doing.” In reality, you do not do anything… 🙂 but because you believe you do; then you do. 🙂

You “create” your destiny when you believe that you have “free will.” You do not create your destiny when you believe that everything is “predestined.” If you do not have “beliefs,” then everything moves as it should.

2.)If the destruction of this world is going to happen with NUCLEAR WARFARE it will make the entire planet inhabitable for the next hundreds or thousand’s of years,{ japan is an example,even now radiation and related diseases persists in those regions} earth will become more polluted and hostile than ever before ! if so then when will SATYUG the GOLDEN AGE start? it will have to take a long break!

Please see how many “beliefs” you are introducing in your question. Your belief of Nuclear warfare, is not completely accurate if you studied the Brahma Kumaris daily scriptures. In that belief system, there is a mention of natural disasters, famine, drought, diseases… Things that you did not account for in your belief. Also, It is mentioned in the Brahma Kumaris belief system, that there will not be a nuclear issue in Bharat and the rest of the continents will go under the oceans. Scary movie… huh? 🙂
Thus, your belief of Nuclear disaster surrounding the whole planet and making the Earth poisonous to live… is just another belief. 🙂

3.)The existence of DINOSAURS and other extinct life forms on EARTH is confirmed by SCIENCE, fossil remains and carbon dating results are proofs for their existence but, there is no mention in our 5000 year cycle that such species existed, did GOD FORGET THEM?.”

Dear reader, “confirmed by science,” is meaningless when we are talking about life. Your belief in science as the holder of “truth,” is just a belief.
How?
Life is more than the physical realm which is what science deals with. here is your definition of science:
“The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.”
In spirituality we can experience that there are many realms beyond the physicality of life, which are integrated. The proof is your own experience.

Quantum mechanics is getting closer to that “reality,” which makes “randomness” and “probabilities” scientific terms to use, when they only denote lack of scientific certainty.

Now, dear reader, I will ask you to please read the tab titled “scientific tales” for a through and convincing ride into the realm of tales for grown ups…
http://avyakt7.com/category/scientific-tales/

There all your questions about the 5000 year belief deal, the dinosaur belief deal and all such beliefs, are answered there. Otherwise, you could type the keyword “dinosaur” in the blog, and you will find articles related with that topic.

Dear reader, It has been a pleasure to reply to your questions, but let me inform you that avyakt7 has “retired” from intellectual debates and logical thinking when related with spirituality and the experience of life. At work I may need to use those skills, but then after those hours of earning my “paycheck” have gone away… those skills are “submerged.” 🙂

However, avyakt7 had his time in that “realm” and articles are available in this blog for those who would like to spend time on such things…

Best wishes!

Let us think about thoughts

As I am reading the “Power of Now,” by Eckhart Tolle, I can recognize what he is talking about because I am experiencing it. To be fair, something similar was explained by J. Krishnamurti in one of his teachings about observing the self. I read that about 20 years ago. It became part of my “intellectual background,” just to say: “yeah, Krishnamurti explains the same idea.. Have you read him? Your ought to consider him..” Then, I look “good” under my buddie, Mr. Ego’s eyes.

But back then, I liked Krishnamurti but it was all intellectual for me and nothing practical.
That is the difference with “Now.”

Thanks to BK knowledge, I can see the importance of putting yourself into this “chamber” of “codes of conduct,” which for the uninitiated may seem like “robbing the taste for life.”

There is the celibacy, the self cooking vegetarianism, the waking up before 4 AM everyday, etc, etc. If you are single, there will be the experience of loneliness and the desperation to “get out of it.” 🙂
All of that, will “force anyone” to look at the self in action. Guaranteed or your money back.
You see, Eckhart Tolle was lucky as well as most Gurus. “Something happened” in their life that made them the way they are. Perhaps “enlightened,” but for you and I, simple mortals, there is the “dying alive,” which paradoxically only strong souls, deities are able to withstand. It is not like “going to your auntie’s home.” I could wake up tomorrow being enlightened and relate here how much bliss is surrounding me… but It will not happen…for I am a Brahmin soul. I have many karmic accounts outstanding waiting to be “collected,” so “enlightenment overnight,” is just not going to happen.
Therefore; I have observed my thoughts and realized that my thinking is “not real” but the issue is that “I believe it to be real.” As Mr. Tolle mentions, my thoughts are coming from the past or building this uncertain future as to how things should be or afraid of the future becoming something else. None of that is the “Now.” Reality. Just plain “waste.”
However, As long as I believe in that mental chatter, suffering will arise. Once that goes away, Ego goes away and there is the opportunity to “die alive” to live a “new” life again, as Mr. Tolle explained. I have experienced that in my little experiment of one day. A self -retreat in my little apartment, with no outside scape.
To observe our thoughts and emotions is “effort.” Awareness is required. A “normal” individual without the background of spiritual practices, will not have the determination to follow up with this, just because he will be busy “being successful” or taking care of his own attainments in life. Most will put these teachings into the “intellectual realm.” It is safer… 🙂

BK gyan, on the other hand; emphasizes the awareness of what we are, the soul. In that experience, thoughts will stop for as long as we can hold the experience. For that Baba, is continually shifting our awareness from”Me” into “YOU.” “You did it,” “You are the one who gives benefit and not me,” etc. It is another method to disengage from that mind which is deeply entrenched with the “ID” of “ME” which is just a mental construct because, that “ME” is never static. It is always changing.

To look at our thoughts without judging them, just to catch when a thought or an emotion comes up, is a deep task to recognize the “self and its own psychological pains.” At the same time, that means “freedom,” from that cage of the mind.

Therefore, I found that to meditate is to go beyond thoughts; for only beyond thoughts we can deal with that which is “real.” That is the experience of who we truly are. In that way meditation is like medicine for the mind, because it takes the mind away from the “rat race” of thoughts. We need to feel who we are. Feeling is not thinking.
The aim, is to live life in a meditative state.

That is why we meditate with the eyes open. 🙂

Brahma Kumaris Knowledge in a Nutshell: Beyond traditional Western thought

13. Brahma Kumaris gyan in a nutshell for Westerners

Everything that exists has always existed but its form changes in “time.” In other words, “matter cannot be created neither destroyed; only transformed.” (First law of Thermodynamics)
For Westerners this concept requires a “creator.” Things cannot come out of nothing. Someone has to create things. Welcome to the concept of God as a “creator.”
In Brahma Kumaris gyan (BK,) there is no need for a “creator.” (but there is a God who does not create.) Since existence has always existed.
For Westerners, time is linear. For this reason a “Creator” is needed or a “big bang” to originate things (Although the “Big Bang” does not explain how the original elements got there in the first place) to find a “beginning.”

In Brahma Kumaris gyan, time is cyclical and eternally repetitive. There is neither beginning nor end.

Nature presents that pattern already. Day becomes Night then Night becomes Day, and so on, in a repetitive fashion. There is “eternal recurrence.” Therefore, we; human beings cannot be essentially matter (matter changes form after death,) we have to be spiritual in nature for spiritual/immaterial energies are immutable to the changes in matter. Thus, reincarnation is a necessity for existence to continue.

This identical repetition of cycles emerges the concept of “predestination.”

Westerners believe in “free will.” However, there is no realization that all the “gifts”/”weaknesses” when we are born, are not a matter of choice. These characteristics give every human being tools for their own development in life. It is almost as pre-determined.

The concepts of “free will and predestination” however, are faulty for it is neither that thoughts appear out of our own volition or out of compulsion due to some force of destiny. The understanding of paradoxes is important here as well as the understanding of the “movement of life,” which in Brahma Kumaris is known as the “Drama.” this is known in Taoism as the “flow of the Universe.”

The Drama represents the ‘story of life’ in our planet. It is a story representing dualistic forces at play: Day changes into Night. New becomes Old, just to repeat again. There is a process in time. It is the story on how “Yin changes into Yang and Yang into Yin.” These changes are what bring experiences in our lives.

When the Drama is viewed as an individual part, related to a particular soul performing actions; those activities have causality. Which is known as the law of “cause and effect” or karma. When we see “karma” as a totality, we can perceive what the “Drama” of life is.

As population tends to increase, we can realize that not every soul is in this planet at the same time. Therefore; we have different experiences according to the time that we “first” arrived. This easily explains the differences in religious views and understandings. Everyone points to the truth, but not everyone could understand a particular view point other than their own. Many times, our own experience makes up our own’s reality. Every religion has adherents as well as school of philosophies. BK knowledge (when studied in depth) points out that every belief system is the “right one for every individual” because “variety” is the norm at this time. It wasn’t like this always. From variety we go into uniqueness and from uniqueness into variety. Those different degrees of change of quality from one extreme to the other in the experience of matter, is what is commonly known as “entropy.” (Second law of thermodynamics.)

This drama of life is beneficial and “souls” experience the range of duality according to their own capacity. The paradox is that even though we are essentially the same (souls,) we are different. That difference makes different tasks that a “soul” (through a body) could perform at a particular point in time, that is known as a “role” or the “mission” in a particular lifetime.

For a Brahma Kumaris adherent, this explanation is the “proof of God,” for even though several philosophies/religions have touched different aspects of the above explanation, no one was able to put this together. The primary questions of Who am I? What am I doing here? Where do I go? have remained a mystery.

Those questions are finally answered within the premises of its own knowledge. It has a supportive basis within its philosophy and the experiential part, in its practice. Brahma Kumaris philosophy is 100% experiential. It is the study of the self to know everything else.

The understanding of the above is not something easily “digestible” for an analytical mind (usually westerners) for many concepts are highly paradoxical and contradictive, ( for things are not “black or white” but there is a range of colors in between which labels and definitions cannot describe.)

The “truth” is not logical nor reasonable but highly paradoxical. It can only be experienced but not talked about. That is the challenge! 🙂