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Auspicious Confluence Age By: BK John – Netherlands

Auspicious Confluence Age:

Where Illusion meets Truth
Vices meets Virtues
Weaknesses meets (Spiritual) Powers
Limitations meets the Unlimited
the Perishable meets the Imperishable
Death meets Birth (Life)
Mortality meets Immortality
Finite meets Infinite
History (Past) meets Future in Present
Body Consciousness meets Soul Consciousness
Devil meets God
Old meets New
Corporeal meets Incorporeal
Darkness meets Lightness
Body meets Soul
Chaos meets Still Point
Impurity meets Purity
Discontentment meets Contentment
Obscurity meets Clarity
Decay meets Creation
Alloy meets Gold
Stone meets Diamond
Childishness meets Maturity
Time meets Eternity
Ego meets its True Self
Destiny meets Origin
End meets Beginning

Love & Remembrance

Om Shanti

Question: What is the status of sukshma vatan. Is it exists for ever or only exists in sangam yug ? I know it has nothing to do with spiritual growth but sometimes becomes necessary to know.Hope you will not mind it. Thanks.

Thank you for your question!
“Sukshma vatan,” is the “Subtle region,” in English.

Let us find out.. 🙂

Gyan tells me that there is no time in the subtle region. If there is no time, can the subtle region be created or destroyed? 🙂

It is always there. We just become conscious of it at the Confluence age (Sangam yug.)

Best wishes!

Question: if the age of every yug is 1250 years where does 5 yug (sangamyug) stay?

Thank you for your question!

Dear soul,

In the cycle of time which lasts 5000 years according to this knowledge, what we see is entropy increasing little by little. For “learning purposes” those 5000 years have been divided in 4 ages. However, see that this division is “artificial,” for there is no point where we can say “here it is” this is a “new age” and everything is different now. Everything changes little by little like a day changes into night time.

Now, Samgamyug or the “confluence age” (as it is translated in English) typically is known as the confluence between the Iron age and the Golden age, but it can also very well be between the Silver age and the Copper age. That is another “confluence.”

Your question refers to the former, iron age and golden age. Sangamyug only exists for Brahmin souls. (Also between the Silver age and Copper age as you can see for those “deities” there where Brahmin souls as well at one point of the cycle of time.)

Therefore, as long as the Brahmin clan exists at this time, there will be Sangamyug.

Best wishes!

Question: Om Shanti The comments and the Answer you give to many question are very beneficial to us all. I refer to Murli of 2nd Nov, I always have these question in my mind. first Baba always says that you receive the inheritance for 21 births in golden and silver age but when you give the course you say 8 births of GA and 12 births of SA. Also the average age of 150 years in GA do not add to 1250 years (1200) similarly average age of 120 or 125 for 12 births do not add to 1250. Also please let me know your churning if the Maharathhi who left their bodies (Dadiji Jagdishbhai etc) if their next birth is the 1st birth or 84th birth? The Advance party will be responsible to give births to Krishna and Radha so would golden age and confluence age will run Parerral for some time? Also so many times you answer that Brahma Vishnu and Shanker,apart from Brahma Shanker and Vishnu do not exist. Behind the throne of Laxmi and Narayan, there is the picture of Vishnu. How come that picture appears there, some kind of memory of Bhakti?

Thank you for your thought out question and kind words!

As far as your first question, the “churned” answer was given here:

As far as your computation on “averages,” it does not mean that 8 x 150 = 1200 so 50 years are missing. The Sakar Murli just relates Brahma Baba’s soul going through the cycle of time as the “model” for explanations. Only Brahma Baba’s life through time has been disclosed with referential points. Brahma Baba takes the full 84 births and when he left his body (1969,) that was his last birth in this “cycle.” Brahma Baba takes 8 births in the Golden age. BUT his second “birth” (name change) is when the Golden age “starts officially.” (When his name changes from Krishna into Narayan 1st -see articles above.) In those 8 births, Brahma Baba could have been 200 years old in one of his births, 145 in another, etc. The word “average” means that we take all values for every birth and add them up and then divide them by 8. That is all. It doesn’t mean that every birth has to be 150 years and also, it does not mean that everyone has to take 8 births of 150 years. Consider Dadi Janki’s age for an “Iron age” average of life expectancy.

Also bear in mind that the “cycle of time” is not a “static line” dividing a circle in 4 equal parts. That is just an easy explanation. The cycle moves continuously without a break and just like you cannot tell when the day starts at dawn, similarly with the ages in the cycle of time. That is the way of Nature, not the way of how an artist would like to paint a picture. 🙂

Consequently, we do not know which “birth number,” Dadi Ji is in or Jagdish bhai. We will start counting again when they experience their first birth after “destruction,” and that could be just like Brahma Baba, before the “official Golden age” or after. That hasn’t been disclosed.

As far as you question of the “advanced party;” the advanced party will allow the “Golden age” to exist. The “Confluence age” is only for Brahmin souls, not for Advance party souls. The confluence age finishes when Brahma Baba takes birth as Krishna. A “new” point to churn is to note that “advanced party” souls are neither in the “confluence age,” nor in the “Iron age.” 🙂

In your last question: Laxmi and Narayan signify Vishu. Also the Sakar Murli, mentions that “Brahma becomes Vishnu,” meaning that Brahma will be a resident of the Golden age.
“Brahma Baba” is the name of a role of a soul. Vishnu is just a mythical name which represents something (sustenance, golden age, the perfect couple, the in-laws, etc) Same with Shankar (destruction, bodiless stage, etc.)

Best wishes!

Question: in the 21 births article, is it possible that the one birth missing (out of 21) was between the Golden and Silver ages?

Thank you for your question. I will be more specific this time. Please bear with me. 🙂
Let us do some math.

8 births in Golden age with a duration of 125 to 150 years. Which of those numbers should I pick? or perhaps the mean or an average? Most choose 150 and then multiply that by 8 = 1200 years.
Since we know that the GOLDEN AGE LASTS 1250 years, then we see that 50 years are missing. Aren’t those 50 years part of the Golden age? YES. Then why should I call that period the “confluence between the Golden age and the Silver age?”

For convenience.

Let us not plug numbers conveniently, if we are going to use numbers. Those 50 years belong to the Golden age. The silver age does not require a confluence. It starts when the coronation of Rama and Sita occurs; just like day “1” starts with the coronation of Lakshmi and Narayan.

Besides if we are going to add “100 years” confluence between the Golden age and the Silver age, we must add some quantity(confluence time) between the Silver age and Copper age and between the Copper age and the Iron age. If we do that, then the numbers of births specified in gyan will not match.

Another point to consider if we keep on making calculations out of fixed numbers, are the duration of those births.
The Iron age has 42 births. If we divide 1250 between 42, that gives us 30 years of life as an average. That means that if you are a BK now and your age is approaching 100, you had to be born and die almost right away before, because 3 lives are already in your last birth. This is just to demonstrate that we cannot use a fixed number such as “150 years” in the Golden age to make calculations. We could live UP TO 150 years at that time but that is not the number for everyone in the GA. That is why I use Brahma Baba as the measuring stick.

Another point:
The only confluence age is at this time and it is for Brahmin souls only.
For there rest, there is entropy all the time.
The “confluence age” for Brahmins will end when Krishna is born. That time is not the “confluence age,” neither the Golden age. It is a time without a name, I’d like to call it “post destruction.” It should last 35 years, because if I recall correctly, that is the age of Krishna before becoming Narayan.

That is why, Brahma Baba takes his first birth “before the Golden age” and still has 8 births in the Golden age. That makes the 21 births. Also, let us recall that Krishna is completely Satopradhan, therefore; he will not experience any sorrow during that time… so basically, he will be experiencing the “in-laws.”

Thank you for your challenging question!