“Dear brother, Suffering is due to our karmic accounts. Gulzar Dadi is “karmateet” and yet she has an operation of kidney stone and it seems karmic bondages with the body still remains. Kindly clarify my viewpoint. Also once she said in her class that when Baba used to come he would would cure her fever with loving drishti. So why not cure the problems of the body now. Please give me your thoughts on this.”
Everything that “you” experience is a karmic “account.”
Suffering is part of that experience. To be “karmateet” or beyond the effects of “karma” does not depend on what is perceived as happening to “you.” (Sickness, suffering, elation, winning the lottery, etc.)
It depends on what you “make out” of it. 🙂
That is why the teaching on forgetting the “I,” or to be a “detached observer,” a “witness” is in place.
The body may hurt. That is an experience. To go “beyond” that experience does not mean not to experience pain; but not to make a “trauma” out of that experience by identifying yourself with that pain and its consequences.
Suffering is mental agony, which we inflict upon ourselves. We have control over that.
Physical pain is an experience which brings discomfort. It will go away in time; but only our minds can make that pain to last for a very long time, well beyond its normal course.
Baba or any being of light helping humanity at this point in time will not “do” anything, which is not already “recorded” in our destiny. Any experience has a “process” to unfold. Once that process is over, then that karma will be over.
If you have a disease that is obligating you to look closely at your health and that disease is meant to teach you something which will be of ultimate gain in your inner growth; it will be “bad” for you if that disease is gone as soon as you are aware of it.
Baba and other beings of light are aware of our own personal “process” and that disease will go away when the time is right; that is, when we have changed our previous ways and attitudes; when we become conscious of the value of our health and act accordingly.
Everything happening to us has a “reason” beyond what we can see at one moment. It is a “process,” change happens usually little by little rather than all at once.
Everything is beneficial when we have the wisdom to “see” beyond the obvious.
“hi, I have been in knowledge for 3yrs now, I want to know how to deal with spirits.. I often get affected with the dark energy,,,and I need to get help to clear them.(I go to spiritual healer). why is this happening to me? I do wake up for yoga.. can you teach me how and what must I do? I want to go deeper in yoga.”
The discovery of existence of spirits is an interesting Aha! moment . Many times we believe that everything is physical, but there is complete “interbeingness” (inter-relationships) with all types of beings, corporeal and non-corporeal.
Why is this happening to you? By the answer above, you could realize that it is “karma.” 🙂
There are some experiences, which we need in our “process,” and they will come from different sources.
Avyakt7 will share this experience with you.
One day in a healing session at the beginning of my ‘healer’ side, my client started crying heavily. The energy coming from her was so strong that Avyakt7 fell down and lost consciousness for about 2 seconds. Unknowingly, during that short time Avyakt7 had a being that “adhered” into Avyakt7’s personality at that moment. That being was generous hearted but at the same time had a personality as if it was mourning or lamenting.
Indisputably that affected Avyakt7’s personality as far as his view of the world and life, during that time. It wasn’t “me,” but Avyakt7 was being influenced. Many could think that this was “bad” for Avyakt7; but in fact; it has helped to change Avyakt7’s personality from a “go getter, self centered” individual into something different.
That took some time. There was a process.
It is the same as when you live with another person and you imbibe some of their characteristics by just living with them.
When that influence was no longer needed, Avyakt7’s destiny had a solution and that entity went away, allowing Avyakt7 to fully smile again.. 🙂 as a different person. The karma was settled.
As far as “dark energies,” that may come from other persons trying to hurt you. As you can see, that is a karmic consequence, something that you may need to discover with help.
Anyhow, you may need to learn to protect yourself by expanding your own energy and to fill the room where you sleep with your own energy. When you become sensible to energies, you can tell when something has changed in your state of being, and you need to “clean” yourself energetically speaking. It is very important to learn this, and you may need to learn it from someone who is experienced.
When something like this happens to you, that is the perfect opportunity for you to learn more about it. That is why, it is in your destiny. Be open minded to the signals that life brings. Do not be afraid.
“Do” your part and let time “do” its work.
As far as “yoga” or connection with the Divine. That “yoga” is meant to be the expression of feelings. It is not about “thinking.” Yoga is an experience “inside you.”
To feel, believe or experience going “up there” is a way to open doors for other energies to come into you.
As we become more conscious of ourselves and the distinct moods that we could experience, we will know when we need to “clean” our energy. As a matter of fact, it is a good practice to clean the “doors” to yourself; that is your main chakras.
The above may sound “spooky” for people who have no experienced these things; but your experience is not “normal” and so, should be the solution.
Enjoy the process. It is a game for an immortal being.
Thank you for your very good question!
I will give a bit of explanation to your thoughtful question.
First, let us erase that word “sin” from our vocabulary. In the understanding of the “unlimited,” we can see that there is a movie going and actions will be performed which have a consequence. Without those activities, we wouldn’t be able to experience duality and thus, go back to non-duality. It is best to refer to “sin” as “body conscious” activities; for these actions are performed in that consciousness.
In that way, we can erase the idea of “bad” that comes with the word “sin;” for after all; we will experience the fruit of those activities; which as we know; are part of the “eternally repetitive” Drama of life.
A “sin” is the experience of suffering as a consequence of a previous deed. “Vikarma.”
That stage of a “detached observer” also known as “witnessing,” or a “trustee,” or being “karanhar” and letting “karankaravnahar” work through us; we could go through the movie of life without being affected by it. Just observing and enjoying the “show,” the movie.
Therefore, there is no such a thing as “cutting off” sins; for the law of karma will do its work regardless but this time, we will not be affected by it. That is how the “crucifx will change into the experience of being pricked by a thorn.”
Now, here the important point: As we settle our karmic accounts, we will be experiencing that stage automatically, for less things will be able to affect us. BUT, if we practice that stage ( I rather say, experience that stage) then, we will be able to “accelerate” the stage of not experiencing those “karmic accounts” with the same intensity until there is no longer the experience of that karmic account, (it doesn’t affect us) so we are free from it.
Thus, greater experience of the stage of a detached observer, less experiences of karmic bondages. That is the meaning of “cutting off sins.”
In Sakar Murlis, that stage of being a “detached observer” is known as “karmateet.” Brahma Baba mentioned that this stage will be reached at the “end.” However, in avyakt Murlis, that stage of being “karmateet” or a “detached observer” was updated to “living now,” and not just at the end. In this way, we could be experiencing those karmic bondages but feeling them as a “thorn pricking our little finger.”
Thank you for your question!
Being a detached observer or karmateet, is to observe the movie of life without being affected by it. That is our emotions will not be affected neither our thoughts in a dual way.
Words have duality in it. thus; it is hard to express spiritual understanding through a language which supports duality.
When BapDada refers about having “good thoughts,” it is not just to “produce good thoughts,” as when I say: “I should be sending good thoughts and pure feelings to so and so…,” but “good thoughts” are a natural exchange with the environment through feeling happy, content in the experience of soul consciousness. Some religions like to call that “compassion,” BapDada calls that “mercy,” or “cooperation.” In that karmateet stage that contentment will be there.
The same is with the word “desire.” Some may be thinking:” but there are “pure” desires… to become karmateet is a pure desire….”
Any desire is a desire. A desire is mind. Mind is duality. When there is duality there are 2 things that will need to be experienced: “good and bad.”
Rather than a “pure desire,” the word that we can use is “commitment.” In Commitment, we have an ongoing relationship with Spirituality. This on going relationship will bear its own fruits according to our efforts/fortune at a particular time. It will happen, but there must be commitment; just like in a relationship.
Because BapDada is our teacher, we have a commitment. Experience the difference between those 2 words: desire and commitment.
As we are caught with words, it is necessary to experience something so we could try to share it by putting it in words. In the quest of words, we could get entangled with rationality and logic. The paradox being that a human being nowadays thrives in rationality when in fact, is the most irrational being there is.
Thank you for your question!
The names Satopradhan, sato, rajo, tamo; basically illustrate “entropy,” that is continuous degradation in quality of matter. To better understand this, picture a brand new car. Now, try to picture the same car in its more degraded usable stage, that is “old.”
You can picture the 2 ends of the spectrum, that is the “black or white,” the 2 extremes deal; however, it will be harder to pinpoint in time a car in its “rajo” or “sato” stages or exactly when one stage finishes to give away another stage. It is a continuous.
Now, when we become “tamopradhan” in a numberwise way; there is a period of “ascension” or going “up” the ladder, just as day changes into night, little by little. That is the period of being elevated one day and degraded the other, the period of “fighting” with old sanskaras, etc… until we give up the fighting… so it is gradual ascension.
Karmateet is being a detached observer. In that respect it has qualities of a “Satopradhan” stage; however, in a karmateet stage there is still awareness of duality, which is not known of in a Golden age Satopradhan stage, thus; there is a difference.
Thank you for your good question!
The “Middle path” comes as a realization of the extremes of duality.
Gautama “Buddha,” started his life in “pleasure” as a prince in a Kingdom. He then went to the “other side” as a renunciate. He was torturing his body, until the realization came that “no extreme” is helpful but the “middle.”
In Brahmin life. many BKs follow the same route. The “before being a BK” and the “after” picture. In that process of transformation, we need to explore both sides. As a matter of fact, we will go to the side of “renunciation” with the same intensity as in the side of “indulging.” That is the understanding on how duality works. The middle way is the point where we recognize that life is not “black or white” but also that it has shades of gray in between.At that point a Brahmin soul “matures” and can start to “smile” as BapDada would like to see us.
What the Buddha recognized is a good realization in the world of “duality.” He also recognized that the apparent opposites are truly complementary, that is why one of his teachings imply “not rejecting” (similarly to Christ as explained before) but to understand that one side of the coin will lead us automatically to the other in the world of duality. Good cannot exist without evil. When “evil” reaches its extreme, it will turn into “good” as we can see how the iron age turns automatically into the Golden age. Similarly “good” in its extreme decline (through entropy,) automatically becomes evil. (Silver age into Copper age) That is duality.
BapDada and Gyan will give us something more. That is the recognition that we can go beyond duality because that “unicity” has existed, is “real” (Golden age/Silver age) but while living in the consciousness of duality. That is “karmateet.” All it is required is to “switch” our consciousness in the realm of the subtle and thus, go beyond the physical.
That is the “effort.” 🙂
Thank you for your question!
That is what BapDada refers to:” Change your vision, to change your attitude.” “See the “good” in things.”
When we churn Gyan, we can realize that we are dealing with experiences which are necessary. That necessity takes away the urgency to put things into convenient containers of “good and bad.” Without those containers there is no sense of guilt, fear or a need to feel defensive about things.Then we learn to become “detached observers,” that is not to be a “movie critic,” but just an observer, like a child looks at a “new toy” with that innocence, enthusiasm and smile of “newness.” In that stage there is no experience of “duality” anymore, then we could experience “karmateet” for our karmic accounts are no longer pulling us, but we are “beyond.” May you have that experience!
Thank you for your question!
Don’t worry… I am not ready yet…I still need sometime to become “karmateet,” for I know I will. 🙂
Usually that has been the way to make everyone “make efforts.” We can see that in the Sakar Murlis. It is the father’s way to make his little children “accelerate their learning” and shape up.
For all new Brahmins out there: Rather than spending your time in “learning,” use your time in experiencing soul consciousness. That is the way I would have made it, if I had another chance ( I know, waste thought.. 🙂 ) But at the same time have confidence in the Drama, Baba and the self. That is all.
Once the little children “grow up,” rather than destruction; transformation will be seen. It is the game of changes. Do your best and don’t worry about the rest … 🙂