Tagged: stage

Question: om shanti im bk avijit from kolkata(west bengal) …im a phy.challenged bk cant go to centrs regularly …. i use a wheelchair , i had been to madhuban 3 times …onence in this year feb.. i listen to live murli regularly n in dharna …im a kumar …. my qs is what should i do to maintain a good sthiti…. in my home as well as i know the importance of going to centre …. wht steps should i take to maintain the good vibes … n there r other souls as well who cnt go to centrs 4 phy prob what effort they do ,………… where can we find the boost

Thank you for your great question!

Dear soul,
Welcome to this blog! I hope you will find useful information in it.

On your question. Spirituality is different than following a set of rituals. As published yesterday about the avyakt stage, from BapDada:”If you have moved forward in your avyakt stage, your activity will be spiritual,” and my favor one: “The more you die from yourself, the more you will meet the avyakt form.”

That is all. When we start our spiritual life, we have a set of regulations and rules to follow; the maryadas. Going to class is part of it; but then we have different individuals with different needs according to their roles and then we see that we cannot “put everyone under the same umbrella,” and pretend that someone will be a subject in the Golden age just because that person wasn’t able to make it to class at the center. As you can see this is not the point of Spirituality but a means to maintain the “saplin” to become stronger until it is able to be by itself.

The point is to maintain a good stage that will allow you to experience the avyakt stage as long as you want. In the sakar Murlis, Baba has mentioned that “if you don’t have the Murli, remember the Father.” Everything goes back to that.

Remembrance brings automatic transformation. It is good to read spiritual materials, but we need to put it in practice.

I recommend “remembrance” as all BKs know it (Pick your flavor) but also, self remembrance, that is to be aware of the self while doing things. That practice will give the space between “you” and the “external” Drama. Without this practice we will easily become unconscious and make mistakes. For this, you need time to be alone in solitude as much as possible and if you have access to Nature, even better.

The rest will come after you reach a certain stage in this practice.
Keep your diet satvvic, celibacy is a must as well as Amrit vela. Those items depend on you. The “boost” that you are looking for will come when you have decided to transform yourself and meet ego face to face, for the first time. As you can see none of the things that I have shared with you, depend on others.

Spirituality is a personal path. You can share the “pictures” while going in that path, but no one will be able to walk that path for yourself.

Best wishes!

Question: Dear brother, In my experience – arriving to the point where I can feel my self/soul detached from the body is what reduces suffering physically or mentally (mental upheaval) and what gives me the power and bliss. My question is staying at that detachment conscious for long time is not that easy – at least for me- is this something that comes by practice if you want to keep that detachment for long?

Question: I am a BK since 6 years, and I have experience various different stages, but the best part is that I keep evolving and progressing. Now, I am at this particular stage (maybe u would be familiar with the experience) where I see my stage oscillates from one state to another and it keeps moving. Few days, I experience complete bliss and flying stage and then without any outer trigger or obstacle, I find myself coming out from that stage (enjoying that inner space to being extroversion) and even being aware that its going to attack me, I feel so helpless…. again when I feel that it (waste and suffering) has come to brim, then I overcome that and feel the extreme opposite state…..I am not able to maintain a balanced state and at times, I felt so helpless and painful to always keep experiencing this ups and downs…..What should I do? Shall I accept it as a part of this journey? Shall I fight bck with the fluctuation I face? I always try to observe and watch my feelings when they are going out of control or unfamiliar to me, but always fails…..? Please share your experiences which might help me to tackle this

Thank you for your challenging question!
Thank you for sharing your experiences as well as your challenges. Being a BK for 6 years is meaningless for “last go fast,” and that is all there is.

In today’s Murli (9/13/12) Baba spoke about “maintaining our stage constant and stable.” He mentioned that “following Shrimat accurately” is what makes the difference.
When we say “Shrimat” there are many implications for “Shrimat” is pretty much individual. A “Shrimat” for a householder is different than a Kumar; that is why I like to go back to the Maryadas, for Maryadas are for all BKs.

Many times, our carelessness in one Maryada makes a difference. Today Baba spoke about cooking your own food among other pieces of advice. This is something that you may need to consider, unfortunately; I am limited in my knowledge of your particular situation; therefore, i can only share general items.

Now, on your question. I am aware that many souls have experienced this “trip” of bliss and out of this world experiences with Baba. Those experience serve as “motivators” to continue in this path; however, let me be clear that in this path, suffering needs to be experienced so we can learn and overcome. That is just our own weaknesses magnified through the tests of life.
This is part of the package of “dying alive,” until that suffering is understood and transformed. That means, our vices transformed into virtues again.

If you are not “creating” your stage with awareness, then any other energy around you can “get into you” and change your mood. I found this is one of the most common issues with souls who have lots of sensibility. These souls could be in tune with subtle experiences and “Baba’s energies,” but at the same time; the opposite will happen with “negative energies,” thus, changing easily the stage of these souls.
Perhaps this is your case.

Our stage is not made by “outside forces.” It is not made by subtle, divine experiences. We make that stage with awareness and understanding of our own processes in life. That is why, it takes time. If your stage fluctuates like a “roller coaster” that is the proof that your stage is not coming from your own self awareness. There is no “recipe” to improve that, other than letting life show you the way. The solution will come if you are honest with your efforts. Waiting just means the opportunity to settle karmic accounts in the process.

Do not get discouraged. As you mentioned, the first thing is to “accept that is happening to you.” Do not deny it. Then look for things to try to “improve.” “fighting” means rejecting. There is no fighting in spirituality. It is just accepting, surrendering ego and flowing with life.

Check the accuracy of those “maryadas.”
Check if you are experiencing greater concentration to be able to create your own stage despite outside forces…and finally have the tolerance and the courage to persist and to look and try for “new” solutions. Experiment.

Do not despair in what you are experiencing for it will change in due time if your persist. It is guaranteed. Tolerance and patience are needed more than anything else.

This path is about trying new things rather than repeating the same old stuff. Openness is needed. That is my experience.

Best wishes!

Point in Depth: Our stage is equal to our awareness.

8. Our stage is equal to our awareness.
“Revise in Amrit vela the lesson of “Who am I”? Use this key and your stage will be automatically according to your awareness.”

Revised the Avyakt Murli from 9-22-75, about “self-respect;” it was a real pleasure.
Many times when we hear about “improving our stage” immediately some words come in our mind: “be sweet, speak little, smile, be gentle, be nice, etc.” then, after such a “brainstorming of nice words,” we set our mind ready to “imbibe” these dictionary words. Ready, set… go!

Then, if someone says “hello” then we remember that we need to use our new “persona” and smile, say something sweet, etc. It seems good! 😉

The problem is that this “practice” will deteriorate easily if a “test” comes in front of us when we don’t feel “that nice.” If we are taken by surprise, our rehearsed “nice-ness” will be forgotten and then we will say: “Maya got me…oh, oh, oh …” Then Baba will give us several “yukties” in the Murli to maintain our awareness. If we go into it, we will see that those “yukties” are usually based on self-respect. That is why He has given us nice, powerful titles. That is why He goes out of his way to shower us with poetry and wit.

I find this point of “our stage is equal to our awareness” extremely important, because if our awareness stays in “who I am?” (Which is the original self-respect and the “seed of gyan.”) if it stays in being relaxed, peaceful and calm due to an experience of meditation or other spiritual experience or just due to a profound understanding, then that new “aha!” moment, becomes the way we perceive our own self and therefore, the world. All we need to do is to carry with us that found beauty, that beautiful moment of peace, to let it sit in our being by practicing that state of feeling the soul, the being. The magic happens automatically. This is “real change.”

This stage does not “come down.” It is part of you. It becomes you, it is “combined” with you. That experience automatically brings a set of “new” behavior: The smile that we were rehearsing before, the happy face, the sweetness, etc. This is not cultivated. This is not “faked.” It is the real thing without looking for a word in the dictionary and acting it out.

There is a difference. “Acting vs. Being.”
You can’t put lipstick on a pig.